Any improvements I could make to forcing?

[DragonFriend]

Hi, been a while since I last posted...

It's been three months since I've started and so far I've got one sentence out of Saphira. When I mentioned that something earlier in the day was funny, she said "yes, it was". It was very quiet, but completely unexpected and not parroting.

The point: Anyway, I haven't done that much active forcing and have gone for narrating and visualizing etc. I have read books to her, asked her opinions, talked to her about general stuff and told stories about what I've done in the past. I also generally acknowledge her presence and try to visualize what she looks like. Sometimes I read out some traits.

I feel like I've got some good progress, but does anyone know how I might improve my forcing? any opinions and ideas are welcome. :)

[The-Syreth-Clan]

If you can, try lucid dreaming with her, listen to some binaural/iso tones while forcing actively, try out Linkzelda's self-hypnosis scripts, I can't offer much more, sorry.

[Stryke]

While there's certainly nothing wrong with the way you're doing things (I work exactly the same way) perhaps it might help to try and find some time for active forcing now and then. Doesn't have to be very long, doesn't have to be very frequent, but I often find a little of it helps solidify things.

[DragonFriend]

Ok, thanks :). I will try to do some more active forcing and will look into lucid dreaming and Linkzelda's self-hypnosis scripts.

[Thunder Chaser]

Ok, thanks :). I will try to do some more active forcing and will look into lucid dreaming and Linkzelda's self-hypnosis scripts.

 

I try not to force actually. Well I do get us into wonderland, but thats it and i just talk to her and talk and talk and talk. This is a friend your making and theres no rules on how to play this game so do everything you would do as you would with a friend.

 

Like right now im chit chatting with Cara and listening to the music she likes as I type this. Shes not vocal yet except one word when she got mad at me which was also her first emotional response to me too. That was a strange day. We listen to music by sharing my senses like what i see, hear, smell, taste, and feel and in this way were both at the same place at the same time and we talk through mindspeak so i can get away with doing this anywhere.

 

Have fun forcing it isnt a chore but you hanging out with your best friend!

[Guest Anonymous]

The point: Anyway, I haven't done that much active forcing and have gone for narrating and visualizing etc.

Just what do you think active forcing is? It sounds to me like you're doing better than the average host. You don't need to make any improvements, the pace you're going at seems to be fine. Just continue doing this.

 

I try not to force actually.

Seriously?

[DragonFriend]

Again, thank you :) this is very helpful. One more thing, I do have time for active forcing, but I'm just not sure what to actually do (on personality) during it, and does reading class as active forcing?

[Thunder Chaser]

Seriously?

 

Finish reading my post, i explained why. I dont force past getting us in the same place, after that i let it all take its own course since i wouldn't force a friend to do anything, so why would i force my tulpa to be or do something she dosent want to? We agree on what we do whether thats just hanging out or going and doing something; i dont make her do anything.

 

I dont call what i do forcing since im not trying to change anything, i call it being a friend and just chillin out.

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Again, thank you :) this is very helpful. One more thing, I do have time for active forcing, but I'm just not sure what to actually do (on personality) during it, and does reading class as active forcing?

 

Trying to alter personality is all symbolism. You can have a jar with your tulpas name on it and have smaller jars labled with the trait that you want and pour them into your tulpas jar and that symbolize the traits you want in your tulpa. I just told my tulpa some basic traits I would like to see in her and they emerged and i let her make her own personality past that.

 

Are you reading to your tulpa? I wouldent really call it active unless you have your tulpas full attention on the book as well and you make sure they know its a book.

[Dog]

Just as a warning, Lucid Dreaming requires a lot of time to actually learn to do properly and teach your body to automatically do reality checks. I wouldn't focus on that just to help force.

[Guest Anonymous]

 

Finish reading my post, i explained why. I dont force past getting us in the same place, after that i let it all take its own course since i wouldn't force a friend to do anything, so why would i force my tulpa to be or do something she dosent want to? We agree on what we do whether thats just hanging out or going and doing something; i dont make her do anything.

 

I dont call what i do forcing since im not trying to change anything, i call it being a friend and just chillin out.

 

It doesn't matter what you call it, forcing is spending time with your tulpa. It's the word used for that action by the entire community - except you. And by imposing your personal definitions unto others, you are only making things harder and more complicated. Nobody said that people who force their tulpas don't consider them friends, and don't chill out with them. That is just an assumption made on your behalf with entirely no basis except for the literal meaning of the word "Forcing" which is entirely irrelevant to what we mean by it. And there is a glossary for you to read if you don't know what that is.

 

Bottom line - stop confusing people. It's annoying and you really don't seem to have a good reason to be doing it.

 

Trying to alter personality is all symbolism.

 

Except symbolism doesn't work for everybody, there are more ways to do something beyond symbolism, and altering personalities is dumb. If you really wanted your tulpa to behave exactly how you want it to, you should've made a servitor. The very definition of a tulpa is that it has the ability to change into something you might not like at all. The very reason people are attracted to tulpas is because they exhibit that trait of being human and independent rather than controlled and robotic. Why would you try to control their personality if what you created was supposed to be an independent being?

 

That doesn't make sense to me.