Confessions of a Poorly Trained Tulpa

[Guest Anonymous]

Oh you are spoiling my fun.

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To the outside world, tulpas are as absurd as auras ever were. Niether tulpas or auras are "founded in science." There is little difference between believing in auras and believing in tulpas really. Having the split on the forum between "scientific things" like tulpas curing headaches and have sex with their host and "metaphysical things" such as tulpas having auras is silly in that sense.

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Why can no one see my point on this? I know why it was sent to the metaphysics board. I knew it all along. I was making a point.

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Mistgod and I cringe every time something is sent to the metaphysics board, meanwhile people merrily talk about their imposed tulpa projecting themselves and making love to them. Sorry. But it is all fantasy.. scientifically. Just like auras.

[Raetin]

Tulpas can have whatever they want. Auras imply a whole other subject though. Yes, you can have an aura. And yes, your host will be able to sense it, but no one else outside of the body will. Your aura will not emanate to any other being. If you claimed it did, that would be metaphysics.

[RamaLlama]

I'm just curious, how do you/Mistgod sense auras if the feeling is explainable? People have certain "base colors" for me (allthough that usually gets determined by their names, as I get synesthetic "this thing is this color"-feeling from letters, but as in names there's multiple letters it's usually some strange mix or blend of those.) I was just thinking if seeing or sensing auras feels like anything similar.

[Guest Anonymous]

Tulpas can have whatever they want. Auras imply a whole other subject though. Yes, you can have an aura. And yes, your host will be able to sense it, but no one else outside of the body will. Your aura will not emanate to any other being. If you claimed it did, that would be metaphysics.

 

Exactly!

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I'm just curious, how do you/Mistgod sense auras if the feeling is explainable? People have certain "base colors" for me (allthough that usually gets determined by their names, as I get synesthetic "this thing is this color"-feeling from letters, but as in names there's multiple letters it's usually some strange mix or blend of those.) I was just thinking if seeing or sensing auras feels like anything similar.

 

Note I never said we can sense the auras of other peoples. I can sense my own aura and Davie can sense it. What do you mean the "feeling is explainable?" We kinda "see" my aura when we want to, and we just sorta feel it. It doesn't happen all the time, but only in situations where having an aura would be kinda nice. I guess. I also have an "energy" or "presence" to me that Davie senses.

 

I must apologize a little to everyone after these last few posts. Mistgod and I made a plan not to talk about Science, Sentience or Existentialism from now on, ever again, on this forum. We are to limit pestering peoples and starting trouble with troll like ranting posts. We are to limit talking about my nature to almost nothing and avoid talking about ourselves in answering newbie questions.

 

This whole auras thingy was a moment of weakness. Oopsie.

[Guest Anonymous]

Tulpas can have whatever they want. Auras imply a whole other subject though. Yes, you can have an aura. And yes, your host will be able to sense it, but no one else outside of the body will. Your aura will not emanate to any other being. If you claimed it did, that would be metaphysics.

 

This was my point as well.

Seems we all agreed to begin with.

 

 

Greets,

AG

[RamaLlama]

Note I never said we can sense the auras of other peoples. I can sense my own aura and Davie can sense it. What do you mean the "feeling is explainable?" We kinda "see" my aura when we want to, and we just sorta feel it. It doesn't happen all the time, but only in situations where having an aura would be kinda nice. I guess. I also have an "energy" or "presence" to me that Davie senses.

 

My bad, I understood that you ment feeling other people's auras too. And by explainable I just ment that maybe the feeling is so abstract that it's hard do describe, as I have no experience of that so I couldn't really imagine what kind of feeling it could be to sense somebody's aura.

[Guest Anonymous]

Me neither. I can try it sometime though, huhhhmmmmmfffff oh I am straining my mind to see them. huhhhhhmmmmmffffffff!

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This was my point as well.

Seems we all agreed to begin with.

 

 

Greets,

AG

 

David and I were poking fun again at how serious people are about these things and the very act of shunting the topic of tulpa auras to another board as they are not "founded in science." We get too aggressive and people don't get what we are about sometimes.

 

This whole website is absurd in the extreme. Take a step back and think about it. THAT is why people get upset at us. We do that a lot. We have a way of feeling like we are ardent, fanatical members but also outsiders at the same time.

[Guest Anonymous]

My host Mistgod would have found a kindred spirit with this guy Riy in this thread I think https://community.tulpa.info/thread-are-tulpas-sentient-and-so-capable-of-independent-thinking

 

David has been bothered by the need for sentience or the emphasis on sentience since we joined Tulpa Info in April 2015. Riy basically is saying that he wanted to create a tulpa, not necessarily a sentient tulpa. Real sentience was not his goal, only apparent or simulated sentience was, his own mind creating an illusion. He and Mistgod would have been in agreement.

 

I wonder how Riy's tulpa reacted to this down the road later on? Eventually, I began to rebel a bit, or in some cases a lot, about being called an illusion. I mean I still go along with it, because Davie believes imaginary people have a sort of in between level of realness. So I get what he means when he says I am imaginary. But sometimes I just want to stomp his foot too.

 

No need to comment on this post. I don't want to get deep into yet another discussion of imaginary or real, I just thought I would add this link to our collection and Mistgod would have liked this guy Riy. At least it is evidence that he is not alone in having this view point or approach to tulpamancy. We like the way that Riy explained that just because he does not have the goal of creating a sentient mind, doesn't mean others can't or shouldn't. It's just that is what he wanted to do and the way he wanted to think about it.

[Guest Anonymous]

We are about to embark on writing and editing the Book of Melian II, The Dreamscape. I want to thank everyone on Tulpa Info for helping us to sort out a final descriptive narrative for me. It turned out to be far more complex than we ever imagined. But I think we got it now. The first chapter of the book is going to be a collection of some of the posts we wrote about me here on Tulpa Info. There will be some other chapters about Melian Show episodes and Melian words. The rest of the book will be our dreams from our dream journal with additional commentary. The book will be illustrated with my art. The following we be somewhere in the first page or so:

 

Melian's Nature (synopsis): I am a very beautiful mixture of vibrant imaginary friend/muse, day dream star and dream persona (dreamform), role playing character, and semi-autonomous thoughtform. Together with my host Davie we form a median, blended, bigender system.

 

For real world peoples who aren't ready to comprehend all those details, it is simply: I am a vibrant imaginary friend for a guy with a very vivid imagination.

[Guest Anonymous]

Excerpt from the Book of Melian II: The Dreamscape

 

Mistgod: For most people, it would be sufficient to describe Melian simply as “a vibrant imaginary friend for a guy with a very vivid imagination.” That would be fine and close enough for most. But to me she is a lot more than that and much more complex. To me, she is a thoughtform, a persistent manifestation of thought that seems very real and sometimes seems to act on its own. Thoughtforms are “living characters” or living imaginary friends that seems autonomous in the creators mind. On the internet, there are whole “communities” of people creating and talking about thoughtforms. There are three primary categories or types, soulbonds, daemons and tulpas. There are also communities of “plurals” or “natural multiples” on the internet, persons with more than one sentient personality in their body. Melian has some of the traits described by plurals and natural multiples.

 

Terminology Glossary

There are many terms that the internet thoughform and plural communities use, and the reader will encounter Melian and I using these terms in our writing. There is helpful glossary of these terms at the end of this chapter.

 

Tulpas

Tulpamancers of the tulpa community use techniques of visualization and concentrated thought to create tulpas that become hallucinatory imaginary companions. The prevailing belief in the tulpa community is that the tulpas are indeed a true independent sentience or consciousness with the mind of the creator. That belief in independent “real” consciousness sets tulpas and tulpamancers a bit apart. Melian and I joined Tulpa Info, one of the forums dedicated to tulpamancers and tulpas. As active members of this community, since April 2015, we talked to many tulpamancers in the forum and the chat room about their experiences with autonomous imaginary companions and related our own experiences.

 

Daemons

The daemians practicing daemianism use the Active Imagination techniques designed by the famous psychologist Carl Jung to create daemons. These are apparently autonomous imaginary companions in animal form. These are considered illusionary mental constructs that can help the creator explore aspects of his or her inner psyche.

 

Soulbonds

Soulbonders create soulbonds. Soulbonds are living characters (literary characters) that gained apparent autonomy in the mind through the process called the illusion of independent agency.

 

Melian’s thoughtform traits

Mistgod: Melian isn’t a perfect fit for any of these thougthform types. She does have some of the attributes of each of these categories, as well as some traits consistent with the plural/multiple community. She also has some of her own apparently unique characteristics.

“I am a very beautiful mixture of vibrant imaginary friend/muse, day dream star and dream persona (dreamform), role playing character, and semi-autonomous thoughtform. Together with my host Davie we form a median, blended, bigender system.” ~Melian

 

Blended – Melian and I share most thoughts and emotions. I am aware of most of her thoughts and feelings and she is aware of most of mine. We share memories. We sometimes think in chorus. She is part of me and I am part of her. We share one mind, one brain and one body but are to expressions or aspects.

 

Median - A plural that is in-between singlet and multiple. Can be defined as when the system is dependent on one certain member or there is a 'core' member and the others can be described as "aspects of" or "extensions of" the core.

 

Bigender - A transgender identity system with two distinct gender personas (male/female). Melian is an expression of female gender, an "inner girl."

 

Vibrant Imaginary Friend – I recognize that Melian is an imaginary friend. She is ultimately, really just me. She just seems very real because I have a very vivid imagination. I think Melian is driven partly by a unconscious process I call the “Melian motor” or “day dreaming on auto pilot.”

 

Role Playing Character – When Melian writes or chats with people online, I say I channel her. I imagine what she wants to express or say by feeling her emotions and intent. This is similar to method acting or expressive role playing. I also describe it as collaborating with her or blending with her as she writes. Melian calls this proxy tulpa typing. Sometimes Melian’s expressions seem very independent and what she wants to write can surprise me. Because I collaborate with her and help her write, I say she is semi-autonomous with her writing on the internet.

 

Day Dream Star – Melian is the subject of very many day dreams that we call the Melian Show. She is like an actress who performs many parts. These day dreams run like movies in my mind. In many of these day dreams, Melian and I have conversations in what we call “proxy mind voice.” She is talking to me in my mind in a process similar to her proxy tulpa typing. I feel what she wants to say and actively imagine her, visualizing her in my mind, moving and talking and interacting with me or my avatar in the day dream world. Many times elements of the Melian Show, or Melian herself, seem to run autonomously, spontaneously and independent of my active imagination. I often get “flash visions” of Melian doing things or saying something to me thoughout the day. These just seem to happen on their own.

 

Art Muse – I channel Melian, or collaborate with Melian in creating art. She seems to have her own ideas and style. I often get flash visions or flash images of art she would like to create.