The Tulpa Gets Tired, and Not Me?

[Bambi]

I've recently realized--as in, today--that James gets tired when we do things together for a long period of time. I don't necessarily mean when in wonderland (but I'm usually only there for about half an hour or so, so does that even count?), but pretty much if whatever we're doing goes on and on and on for a good deal of time without a huge break.

 

Today, for example . . . what all did we do today? I can't remember everything in exact order, but we did drive to the mall in wonderland to buy things for our apartments, had sex whoops, I let him decide which cards I would put down when playing against my roommates, listened for him for what was probably around fifteen- to twenty minutes, and proxied. A lot. When I say that, I mean he's got a profile of his own now, if you haven't noticed. After that I was talking to him for a bit when we were going for a walk, but I realized that he really wasn't responding that much. I asked him if he was tired, and he said he was. He's taking a nap now; I'll wake him up later.

 

This isn't the first time that this has happened, really, it's just the first time that I've noticed it. When I first started tulpamancing, it was very difficult for him to enter my dreams. He doesn't like to do it very much, because it takes up a lot of energy, apparently.

 

I suppose what I'm asking is . . . why might this be? I've heard of the tulpamancer getting exhausted quite a lot, but now that I'm thinking about this subject I don't know if I've ever heard of a tulpa getting tired in the host's place (though I probably have). I don't know, maybe I read about this frequently and it's managed to escape my attention every single time. ^_^;

[Stevie]

Tulpas and hosts have different sleep schedules sometimes, and one can get tired independently of the other.

[Procron X]

Niteo:

Is James pretty young? It's pretty easy to get tired if he's pretty young. But in general. just being around people can be tiring, you know that, right? Maybe just interacting with you makes him tired. Doesn't mean anything is wrong, just means that he needs to spend time apart from you, which is normal. :)

[Bambi]

Tulpas and hosts have different sleep schedules sometimes, and one can get tired independently of the other.

 

This was actually one of the first things I thought about, but in general James doesn't sleep--unless he sleeps when I'm sleeping. I haven't talked to him that much about his sleep schedule, really.

 

Niteo:

Is James pretty young? It's pretty easy to get tired if he's pretty young. But in general. just being around people can be tiring, you know that, right? Maybe just interacting with you makes him tired. Doesn't mean anything is wrong, just means that he needs to spend time apart from you, which is normal. :)

 

I think whether or not you'd say James is young kinda depends on what you view as "young," but most would say he isn't--he's officially been here for one year and two days now, after all. Still, how James and I "do things" isn't usually like what we did today (I'm more of a "talk about whatever comes to mind and read" sort of tulpamancer, rather than a "let's actually do shit that isn't just me reading to you" type of person. I think that that might have a lot to do with it.

 

As for the interacting with people bit, yeah, that's also really plausible. XD Both James and I are fairly introverted, so it wouldn't surprise me if that has a lot to do with him being sleepy, too. It just threw me off because, like I said before, James and I talk more or less all the time. I wasn't really thinking in terms of this being a different sort of interaction, you know?

 

Anyway, thanks, y'all!

[Guest Anonymous]

Tulpas and hosts have different sleep schedules sometimes, and one can get tired independently of the other.

 

That's not entirely true.

 

I'm saying this because my tulpa and I literally sleep at the same time, for the exact same duration together, and she still gets tired to the point of not really talking much and being more passive than ever. It's something we've been working on for a while, in order to remove that passiveness.

 

Think of it this way; your body and your mind rest when you sleep, the mind's rest are essentially dreams. I've heard that a lot of tulpas don't dream/cannot recall their dreams (everyone can dream, if you don't 'dream' it's just that you don't remember your dreams, dunno about tulpas though), and some even told me that they felt non-existent while sleeping. And from my personal experience, when I sleep with my tulpa (literally in the same bed, right next to her), she seems to only really recall the things we speak of before sleeping, and very rarely has 'dreams', in short terms, it's like she has no recollection of what actually happened during the night.

 

Yet, she wakes up fully rested after a good night's sleep, but still gets a bit tired during the day, this is due to a few things;

 

• Boredom, she gets bored at some stuff I do sometimes.
  
• Anxiousness and self-doubt, she doesn't really believe in herself and always has insecurities, which sucks.
  
• Depression overall, because tulpas CAN be depressed as well.
  

 

 

My hypothesis is as follows; tulpas don't actually 'rest' in the same way we do, but their rest relies on, well, not existing, not interacting with their host, or rather, feeling the inability to do so. The way my tulpa and I fixed is was that I got her interested in more stuff, we did new stuff out of our routine, and made our sleeping pattern corresponding to when she gets 'tired' like that; whenever she becomes unable to speak well, or feels general tiredness or depression/negative emotions, I take her to bed, and it becomes easier for her to speak of WHAT actually bothers her, she has more attention in that moment, and later on after talking of those things, we either sleep or get up, if we do get up it means she feels better, or good enough to not 'not exist', if that makes sense.

 

I wrote a shorter post about this in another thread, I think.

 

Keep in mind this is all hypothetical, it's issued from my own personal experience, I'm not trying to rule out anything.

[Bambi]

I might be wrong, but I think Stevie just meant that they *can* have different sleeping schedules, not necessarily that they always do. (Not that your post wasn't interesting, because it definitely was!)

[Guest Anonymous]

I might be wrong, but I think Stevie just meant that they *can* have different sleeping schedules, not necessarily that they always do. (Not that your post wasn't interesting, because it definitely was!)

 

Oh, I know. Didn't mean it in a way that they all do, just that some of them are affected by different factors.