Removing Doubts and General Meditation Technique

[Guest Lanpc]

Hey I have a useful technique for those that sometimes feel like the doubts they're having will negatively affect their tulpa. This technique will also help with distracting thoughts during meditation/LD's/Kundalini stuff.

 

Note: You do not have to go through the whole process that I narrate, this is more of a guideline to help you find the exact "muscle" used when forming thoughts, and allow you to manipulate it.

 

 

 

A major problem/stumbling block that people run into when trying to create a tulpa, is doubt (What if my tulpa can't really talk? Am I just insane? My tulpa doesn't really exist and I feel crazy talking to nothing [lol], etc.). A great way to deal with this is to first get relaxed, and in a meditative state. Pay attention to your mind and all the thoughts flitting by, but in a third person perspective. Examine where these thoughts are coming from and where they go when you forget about them. Now every time I had a doubt about my tulpa, I would visualize my tulpa reaching into my head grabbing the thought (I visualized the doubt as being a black worm), pulling it out of my head and using a flame thrower to incinerate it. I would do this constantly. As soon as a doubt formed in my head my tulpa would kick it's ass. Eventually I got so good at this it would become automatic Doubt > Tulpa ass whooping > no doubt, but at the same time I was getting tired of visualizing the whole scene in my head so I cut it down. I changed the visualization so that every time a doubt worm formed, my Tulpa would stick a gun in my head and kill it before it got out. As I was doing this something clicked in my head [Not the gun ba-dum tshh]. I realized that thoughts are just another action similar to moving a hand or a leg. It starts with an intention. As soon as I noticed this I changed the visualization again. As soon as I felt the impulse [intention? Not sure what to call it] that a doubt was forming in my head, I would visualize a spark going off where I thought the doubt originated and I would immediately suppress the thought before it fully formed.

 

Eventually I did this process so much during the day that it became automatic, Doubt forming > Spark > Doubt gone. I believe my subconscious took over censoring my thoughts, but I would still feel the beginning of the doubt before it sparked and I didn't like that. So I changed it up once again, but this time a bit more subtle. I examined my thoughts again, and realized that where I thought the thoughts were originating was actually not where all my thoughts originated. Eventually I found this sweet spot, that i determined was the origin of the intention to form thoughts about my doubts about my tulpa [mouthful]. I found I could flex a muscle [or something like a muscle?] and it would kill the thought before I even knew what it was. Again I practiced this a lot with different thoughts that I wanted my sub to filter, and eventually the process would become automatic. At the same time however, I could actively enforce a "blanket ban" of all thoughts while meditating (Not for long, I feel like I can filter specific thoughts much easier than all thoughts) to effectively have a calm and quiet mind while my sensory awareness was greatly enhanced.

 

Remember that you do not have to follow the exact process I did, the end goal in this excercise is to be able to identify the region of the brain where your thoughts are formed, and control it. Any questions, let me know!

 

**Quick edit to add an exercise [thanks Lacquer for pointing out how confusing this can be]**

 

If you want a quick exercise, try this:

 

1. Say the word "Hello" Loudly and clearly in your head

2. Now repeat the word, but cut it off halfway through

3. Repeat and cut off at H

4. Repeat but cut off the instant you hear a sound

5. This is the tricky part, now you have to intend to say the word "Hello", but cut it off before you hear anything. This can be made easier by saying "Hello" twice and cutting off the 2nd "Hello" before it is vocalized.

6. Finally, as soon as you feel the "impulse" to say "Hello", cut it off.

 

This exercise should help in identifying that "impulse", and hopefully help you figure out just what I am talking about.

[historical]

I feel like an idiot I thought your name was ianpc on the irc.

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[Guest Lanpc]

This is after having done the other, not based on the "location" of the thought, methods of killing the doubts, right?

 

Yep.

 

 

I'm confused by these "location" words. What do you mean? The brain isn't mapped out like "good thoughts start in the top-middle area cortex", "bad thoughts start in the right temporal lobe", etc., so what do you mean by these "location" words?

 

These location words are used because unfortunately I cannot describe it well. Imagine an apple, where was that image formed?There is no real "location", however it feels like it is coming from somewhere. I am hesitant to be too specific, because I'm sure it could be different for different people. I would suggest first working on this method and figuring out what I mean for yourself. If you want a quick exercise, try this:

 

1. Say the word "Hello" Loudly and clearly in your head

2. Now repeat the word, but cut it off halfway through

3. Repeat and cut off at H

4. Repeat but cut off the instant you hear a sound

5. This is the tricky part, now you have to intend to say the word "Hello", but cut it off before you hear anything. This can be made easier by saying "Hello" twice and cutting off the 2nd "Hello" before it is vocalized.

6. Finally, as soon as you feel the "impulse" to say "Hello", cut it off.

 

This exercise should help in identifying that "impulse", and hopefully help you figure out just what I am talking about. If you have any other questions/complaints or if none of this works for you, let me know!

 

**Gonna edit main post to put that exercise up

[Lacquer]

I'm not getting it, but it's late right now for me, so I'll try it later.

 

Although, maybe we just think differently.

[Rinzuul]

 

Yep.

 

 

These location words are used because unfortunately I cannot describe it well. Imagine an apple, where was that image formed?There is no real "location", however it feels like it is coming from somewhere. I am hesitant to be too specific, because I'm sure it could be different for different people. I would suggest first working on this method and figuring out what I mean for yourself. If you want a quick exercise, try this:

 

1. Say the word "Hello" Loudly and clearly in your head

2. Now repeat the word, but cut it off halfway through

3. Repeat and cut off at H

4. Repeat but cut off the instant you hear a sound

5. This is the tricky part, now you have to intend to say the word "Hello", but cut it off before you hear anything. This can be made easier by saying "Hello" twice and cutting off the 2nd "Hello" before it is vocalized.

6. Finally, as soon as you feel the "impulse" to say "Hello", cut it off.

 

This exercise should help in identifying that "impulse", and hopefully help you figure out just what I am talking about. If you have any other questions/complaints or if none of this works for you, let me know!

 

 

Tried this, got a good feel of where the 'thought' was originating from.

 

I simply directed my attention towards the spot and sort of applied my own form of 'pressure' to it, which cut it off entirely. Will have to see what else I can do with this. Perhaps I can also find the spot were the 'minds eyes' forms images, and perhaps, with the right form of attention/pressure/energy whichever you prefer, I can stimulate it to provide vivid and clearer visualizations.

[Guest Lanpc]

 

 

I simply directed my attention towards the spot and sort of applied my own form of 'pressure' to it, which cut it off entirely.

 

congrats! that is exactly what this guide intended.

 

Perhaps I can also find the spot were the 'minds eyes' forms images, and perhaps, with the right form of attention/pressure/energy whichever you prefer, I can stimulate it to provide vivid and clearer visualizations.

 

bingo

[Linkzelda]

Not sure if the [] is OP's tulpa talking, and if so, Name: format can do. But OP hasn't been active for a long time, and I don't know anything about their activity in the IRC.

 

I was mostly looking at the exercise, and would see that as a small tip, but before that sounds like a basic introduction to meditation. Is it bad? Not so much, but it is kind of cluttered a bit. And for other small revisions, the OP probably won't be revised.

 

Does the quick exercise justify the prior formatting? Maybe, but blank vote until other GAT members respond.

[waffles]

Doesn't really read like meditation to me, more like how to use symbolism to control your own thoughts.

 

I feel like the meditation part might be more useful than the doubt stuff, but I don't know. Either way, I think the guide is pretty detailed in its description of what to do, even with a little exercise. So I'd be on for Guides here.

 

I put a Focus tag on this, I'm not sure if there's anything more appropriate.

[Sands]

The brackets replace parentheses for some reason, they're not meant to be badgetalk as far as I can see.

 

I can't really see the meditation here either, just symbolism to control your imagination and such. Again, not sure if just trying to remove doubts is good as something caused them and trying to fix that problem at first would be better, but I guess this is possible symbolism to strengthen your tupper in your mind. As such, despite the length, all I really see is a tip of "symbolize tupper to kick doubt's ass!" instead of a guide. The tiny exercise at the end might even be the more guide-ier of the two texts, so I dunno, maybe that would justify it being a guide? But I just can't help but see it as a tip. I can still approve it as something, though.

[NotAnonymous]

Approved, Tips or Guides.

 

This is basically a technique for controlling one's thoughts, expectations and beliefs directly.

 

The symbolism seems to be the initial step in this guide, but in the latter part the author talks about observing one's intent and beliefs at a "rawer" level (the preconscious ones), and then changing one's expectations there.

 

Overall, this is a valid technique for controlling one's own thoughts, but the last part is hard to describe. While I don't think the author did it perfectly, I also think it's nearly impossible to describe how to do it, so I commend him for his effort, even if it may be misunderstood by some people.

 

My only objection to the guide is that I don't think doubt is something that must be fought, rather than worked with so that one ends up without doubts simply because the experience of interacting with one's tulpa is of the kind they wanted originally - thus there being no need for any doubts.

 

Oh, and I don't think [] stands for badging here, they seem to be just side-comments.

[schlondark]

Could see for tips and tricks