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Confessions of a Poorly Trained Tulpa


I want to give a hug to Melian, the groovy-guru! Outside the Lounge, she is all professionalism with her scientifical spectacles and lab coat! Hugs, sillies and lovies are for the Lounge!   

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  1. 1. I want to give a hug to Melian, the groovy-guru! Outside the Lounge, she is all professionalism with her scientifical spectacles and lab coat! Hugs, sillies and lovies are for the Lounge!

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Guest Anonymous

Noice.

 

Run while you can, fools! Or prepare to give your souls to our new technicolor overlords

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Guest Anonymous

We just watched part two of episode one! Yay!

We just watched part two of episode one! Yay!

 

Are there any characters you like in particular so far?

Guest Anonymous

I love Pinky Pie so much! I love her little songs. She is just like me! We are watching episode 2 now and Twilight Sparkle got invited to the Grand Galloping Gala! Ooooooh!

Meh I watched it a while ago back in 2013, but I lost all interest in the show to be honest.

"Try to get a better understanding of things before making your judgement." -Khan, Metro 2033

 

Guest Anonymous

It's cute, which is why Melian likes it. The characters are adorable and I like the animation style.

I've been gone for a little while, and I return to this.

Allow me my quick quip- i understand your viewpoint, or at least I do from my perspective.

I have trouble trying to imagine Ves or Crown as 'real'. As an entity that can react and manipulate things in the physical world, I do things. They cannot. I work at my job and I try forcing them in uniforms, working the machines, but nothing gets done. They can't take me into the wonderland I picture, I can't bring them out here. It just doesn't work. I'm too attached to my world and they're stuck in theirs. I have to take a certain level of nonchalance with the rules I use to categorize them. What if they are simulated? They're damn good simulations, that's what.

 

I worked tirelessly to create one. The others were more simple once I had the path beaten down. Numbers flux and bodies come and go.

I accept two things- one, I did a thing. I made a little woman in my head and she runs off of what's in my head to keep going. Sluggish days keep her from talking to me. Good days, I might not end up talking until I remember that there is a little woman in my head that thrives on responses. Now I have two little women, and I just keep pushing until I know exactly what I can do to make the situation better and more feasible for the experimental sciences I keep working on in my head. They are in my head. That's Thing One. I did this in my head and no one can take them, just as I can't bring them. They're a reality that I simulated. Two- they're rich, full ladies. They're characters all their own. Sometimes I worry that I'm stuffing them, with the answers, sometimes I wonder where they get this stuff from. They remember what I don't, they know what I don't. They're good at what I'm not. I can rely on them, trust them. They're as real as anyone else gets as far as interaction goes. I can't do much else but accept that, too. They're a simulation of two very real ladies, and they're constantly evolving in the sense that a real friend would when you see them years down the road. They're just around all the time.

 

They're damn good simulations, and as far as it goes, so is everyone else. Damn good variances on me with morals and rules in different areas. So are they. We just happen to have a much more intimate understanding of one another. Kids are simulations of the coalescence of information they get growing up. Religion, education, the subsequent lack thereof.

 

This was supposed to be a quick quip, and it ended up a lengthy retort. Sorry about that. Longtime members of the Redline Fanclub know I'm extensive with writing.

Let me cap off with a real quick quip- I understand where you're coming from and what you meant. I don't have a bone to pick with you or a fight, nor do I have anything I'd like to ask you to change. What you said makes sense to me. Not sure if anyone else spoke up about this, but if they haven't, this makes two of us.

Longpost

 

Technically this all is about a small little detail, which can't be nailed down. It doesn't even matter that much. Point is: The little voices in your head could be "simulated" in perfection, or they could be truly "developed". The main difference would be that their mind would be simply more hardwired, like your own mind, to the brain. It doesn't really change anything about the tulpa itself.

Tulpa: Alice

Form: Realistic Humanoid/Demonic Creation

She may or may not talk here, depends on her.

Guest Anonymous

@Redline and NoneFromHell

 

And that is what has taken me seven and a half months to accept and understand about tulpamancy and about my relationship to Melian. My fear of admitting in public that Melian indeed does have a form of sentience kept me constantly emphasizing her illusory nature but at the same time admitting that she seems like a person to me. It was a terrible conflict between my logical realist side and my dreamer believer side.

 

I was afraid to admit it or emphasize it for one main reason. I have told everyone about her. I don't want to look crazy. So I emphasized her role as an imaginary art muse and part of my quirky weird make believe world. She went along with this and supported me in saying it, because she really doesn't care if someone labeled her as an "imaginary," as long as they regard and treat her as an independent person, which I did and others do.

 

I guess a good analogy is the holographic doctor on Star Trek Voyager. He didn't mind being recognized as a holographic program, but he still wanted to be regarded with respect as a holographic person (a form of sentience). Eventually the ships crew did just that as his program got more sophisticated and gained memories and personality and a history. He developed personal relationships, just as Melian has.

 

I had to learn that the truth of actual sentience is not what is important, but how we regard that apparent sentience is.

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