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[Ashy]

Well this thread got real douchey real fast.

 

Had to tell you that I laughed heartily at this comment.

 

But yeah, saying things like that, Brassow, only proves to the community that you're not ready to take adequate care of Jason.

 

As far as guides go, I'd just look through multiple ones, as none of them are right or wrong. You gotta go with the flow and take notes of different ideas.

[Guest Anonymous]

I am now back from my self exile with Jason... but so little progress has been made. He's only been in contact with me when I'm actively thinking about him or tulpa related stuff. Does anyone have any tips and/or can they point the way to a previously made guide?

-Brassow And Jason

 

Associate activities with tulpas, not the other way around. Simple stuff.

Sitting down, going up stairs, opening doors. Keep adding more and more activities until he's constantly around.

It's slow at first, but if you're relentless things will improve.

 

Your profile says you are 14 years old, and most of the tulpa community regards that as too young to create a tulpa. Here is a quote from JDBar that explains it well:

 

"Tulpamancy should be approached with a mature mindset, anything less will fail to understand the weight of creating a sentient thoughtform. A message to thirteen-year-olds and those of similar age, you have not matured enough to create a tulpa. While you may be capable of acting mature for your age, you simply are not mentally developed yourself. Throughout your school years, you will continue to change as a person, discovering significant new things about yourself and others and forming new beliefs and opinions. Until you have a solid foundation for your own mind and personality, and are beyond the influence of crazy teenage hormones, it is irresponsible for you to take on the task of developing someone else's mind and personality."

 

Delicious ageism. Not only is JDBar no way a good role model, he's a hypocrite nonetheless. So take that little quote with salt. While at it, Brassow already has his tupperware in function. Telling him to not make one at this point is useless and detrimental. Gotta hop on that train when they're nice and fresh, y'know?

 

What he creates now may be something he hates later in life and oh we'll he's stuck with it.

 

Tulpas can adapt to change too. Unless he hates the phenomenon, I doubt this will be an issue.

 

Imagine if your only parent was a 14 year old. Not only that, the 14 year old parent would raise you completely on his own, because he can't really tell people around him about you. This would be harmful to both the 14 year old and the tulpa.

 

Comparing creating tulpas to raising a child is a good cursory to describe the process. Sure.

Going any deeper than that and it quickly falls apart. Notably, babies don't have a (near)developed brain to utilize, and thankfully tulpas aren't crapfactories for the first 6 months.

 

But yeah, saying things like that, Brassow, only proves to the community that you're not ready to take adequate care of Jason.

 

Guys, come on. No. The only thing this proves is Brassow could use some help and by god he's better than most by seeking it instead of just giving up.

[Clementine]

I support ageism. Younger people are less developed and experienced and therefore less capable of doing a good job at an introspective practice such as this. Also, JDBar being a hypocrite would not refute his statement at all. If I smoke, and someone asks me for a cigarette, and I tell them that they shouldn't smoke and smoking is bad for them, I am being a hypocrite. But that does not change the fact that smoking is in fact bad for them. So, that isn't exactly a valid argument. I'll agree that telling someone they're too young to make a tulpa post-creation is pointless, though.

 

Creating tulpas does not equal raising a child, but it does bear a significant level of responsibility. It's not an entirely flawed analogy - just like with children, you need to give your tulpas attention, and if you're neglectful/irresponsible with them that doesn't necessarily mean they'll suffer immediate, significant damage, or dislike you at all for it. Hence why you'll often see tulpas say that they're okay with their host's lack of attention - who else would understand better than someone in your own brain?

 

I don't think that defending the OP would do him any good, though. I wouldn't even know what a "self-exile" really is and I've seen him be rather immature in this thread (forgive me if I'm wrong). To answer your question, though, Brassow;

 

Spend time with him. That's all you can do. Here is a list of activities that might give you an idea of what you should do http://tulpaforce.me/activities.html but it's best to find activities that work for the both of you. Don't let others tell you what to do - it will only bring frustration and annoyance. You need to find your own path with this based on others' experiences.

[Brassow]

I enjoy how most of you guys are arguing about ageism instead of helping... Obviously you wouldn't know if someone is just acting or being mature unless you were them. I act quite the opposite actually. I pretend to fit in with my peers but am probably more mature than any of them. I am not an average person of my age like some of you predict. Making a tulpa proves that. So I guess this goes to say you guys can assume a bit too much.

 

But thanks for the people who DO give advice.

[Dog]

I enjoy how most of you guys are arguing about ageism instead of helping... Obviously you wouldn't know if someone is just acting or being mature unless you were them. I act quite the opposite actually. I pretend to fit in with my peers but am probably more mature than any of them. I am not an average person of my age like some of you predict. Making a tulpa proves that. So I guess this goes to say you guys can assume a bit too much.

 

But thanks for the people who DO give advice.

You are absolutely NOT mature at all. The definition of mature is "fully developed in body or mind, as a person". A 14 year old is not fully developed in body or mind, so I don't see how you can call yourself mature. You can say that you are mentally mature and deal with issues like an adult, but you obviously do not because in this post you are just bitching about your age. You could at least provide a logical argument as to why you should be treated as more mature than your peers.

It is pretty hard to help you with your problem because you did not provide enough information about what your problem actually is. Try to expand a little more on your original question so we can answer it.

[Brassow]

Well seeing as you already DID point the way to a guide as I asked, there is no actual point to continue this thread unless you wish to keep pointing out that I am 14. By "bitching" *dog pun* about my age, you continue to be a dick about it. Do you see the viscous cycle? Because I sure as hell do. I can obviously make a tulpa. I already have, so I don't quite understand why you think I'm "too immature" to make one.

[Guest Anonymous]

I support ageism. Younger people are less developed and experienced and therefore less capable of doing a good job at an introspective practice such as this.

 

Teens are very capable of being introspective and activities like this can improve the ability.

In other words: It's good for them.

 

Also, JDBar being a hypocrite would not refute his statement at all. If I smoke, and someone asks me for a cigarette, and I tell them that they shouldn't smoke and smoking is bad for them, I am being a hypocrite. But that does not change the fact that smoking is in fact bad for them. So, that isn't exactly a valid argument. I'll agree that telling someone they're too young to make a tulpa post-creation is pointless, though.

 

Come on, the smoking example is the one off Wikipedia. Have a little zest with these when you can. Irregardless, there's statistical evidence that says if you smoke you will develop health issues and that's the point. You can back it up. With JDBar, it works against him. There's no convincing evidence saying bad things will happen. Quite the opposite, actually.

 

What I'm proposing is his argument doesn't work as a whole. Notably, you don't need a solid foundation for your mind, personality, and lust. People have consistently said tulpas helped prevent suicide and ease their diseases. Tulpas are known to deviate and adapt to the host's ever-changing personality. And if you turn out to have a 15-strong kawaii harem, just keep it to yourself.

 

I don't think that defending the OP would do him any good, though. I wouldn't even know what a "self-exile" really is and I've seen him be rather immature in this thread (forgive me if I'm wrong). To answer your question, though, Brassow;

 

No, I hardly know Brassow. The circlejerking needed to be called out on, though.

[CM]

Okay, I know this thread is old already, but I just wanted to say (not that it's important or even a good point, I just wanted to say it) something about all this... age thing... (in here we just call it "age-racism")

 

It's true that a 14-year-old can be immature and be going through lots of things in their growing and developing mind, but I don't see any reason why it would be bad for tulpa. Or for a young host to have one. As someone already said, a tulpa will adapt and develop over time.

The ages of people on the only Finnish tulpa related forum are from 12 to 15, and most of the people on there are 13 or 14 y.o. girls. Every single one of them seems more mature than you could think. Every one also states that having a tulpa has helped them in so many ways, more ways than they would have thought it would.

 

Every human mind develops differently. I believe the age when people are considered "mature" even differs in different cultures. There are countries where kids around 12 get drunk and talk about men, or even get pregnant, and countries where 14-year-old boys fight in wars.

The way people raise their children and in what environment has a huge impact on it. A mind can develop much faster than the body, and vice versa. Each individual is unique, even though some, or maybe even most match the description other people place on them because of their age.

 

Just saying.