Confessions of a Poorly Trained Tulpa

[Guest Anonymous]

With the new rule though, we can't really speak of those things without considering them as a form of 'blogging', because it's really personal and enters daily life. Oh well!

[Stevie]

I'm thinking this is becoming more of a progress log, correct me if I'm wrong. If so, Kiah or another admin/mod should move this whole thread.

 

Nah, it's not a progress log. Lounge is the best place for it.

[Guest Anonymous]

With the new rule though, we can't really speak of those things without considering them as a form of 'blogging', because it's really personal and enters daily life. Oh well!

 

There are already "tulpa only chat" threads and "chat threads" established in the forum. I see no difference with the Melian's Musings thread from those. People can start similar threads all they want and talk here on this thread about whatever their heart wishes to say. We can talk all we want about your tulpas day and Melian's day. The only difference being this particular rambling thread is "produced and operated" by Mistgod-Melian incorporated. LOL

 

Note there is a new thread though, Melian's Musings II, which will be taking off where this one is ending, or attempting to end.

[ReisOtherHalf]

(I think a big part of clueless newbie syndrome is that people assume it works the way maths or a lab procedure does, that there is a cut-and-dried path to success (do all the steps in guide = instatulpa) and nothing can be further from the truth.

 

Whenever we've seen a somewhat stupid question, most people had actually read a guide and had some step not work for them or became overly timid. My feeling is that guides are just that: guides, not recipes or textbooks, so whenever it comes up, I recommend experimenting, feeling one's way and letting go of the idea that there's a right way to get one's new mindfriend to appear, or indeed, any preconceived notions.

 

As for how to get people weaned from following things to the letter and helping them explore their own subconscious freely, now there's the rub...)

[Guest Anonymous]

One way for a tulpa or thoughtform to feel like they are more important in the real world is for them to give to charity! I know it sounds silly, but for a tulpa it can be really cool.

 

I set up an e'mail in my name and my own Facebook account. Then I started giving to charities in my own name. My favorite is the National Park Trust. I wrote bout that in this thread https://community.tulpa.info/thread-general-unhealthy-tulpa-obsession-and-day-dream-idealized-perception?pid=135403#pid135403

 

It came up in a discussion bout how tulpas can feel like they are living in the real world and to have purpose in the real world. Well, giving to real world charities can make you feel like you make a difference!

 

Here is a Deviantart journal post we did bout this and there is a video link to the National Park Trust and a list of the charities Davie and I give to.

Just thought I would say something bout this on the forum for those searching for ways to feel more connected to the real world.

[RaveCrazedDave]

It's really something that one has to come to terms with when they first get into contact with things like these which are not very well documented/studied. I'll give my example with something that I got into recently (at least REALLY got into, but I've been doing it accidentally for two years or so now, I guess), and that is lucid dreaming. I eventually had a dream that pushed me to the forums and pushed me to try to really master and understand this. And I got there knowing this was an actual thing, I had experienced it and I had no doubt about it. The thing is, when I arrived I had all kinds of (stupid, I guess), questions, because I didn't understand or wasn't really thinking about how the word "subjective" really applied to that. And yes, I read guides and tips and tricks and they all said it clear as day: "Look, this may work for me, but not for you. This is all subjective and you should try different things to see what works for you." And I nodded, I was like "Yeah, makes sense," but I guess I was afraid of failure, and didn't actually realize how subjective this all was before I posted my stupid ass questions. But then it actually hit me. It actually began dawning on me what people meant when they said subjective.

 

I guess the word can be a bit missleading because of the world we live in. We aren't used to finding ourselves at the bottom of an uncharted mountain like tulpas and to some extent lucid dreams are. At least I, as a person of science, was not used to that. And yes, even though I believed in lucid dreams because I had experienced them, I was always questioning how much scientific information can I find about this. How much information can I extract to make predictions on these things. I reached the forums and read all those guides and I guess one thing got stuck in my subconscious: "what parts are subjective? What can I take for granted?" And I guess even though it was a very recent change in my mind, it's an important step of personal growth to realize "wow, nothing. I can't take nothing for granted here." It's new, and to some extent it is scary and it really hits you like a truck that after years and years of papers telling you about what you're dealing with, you're virtually alone on this journey. You are going to a new planet, and you can't even ask if that animal or plant is poisonous or not. I guess the real thruth of it is, in this case, if you're asking questions about yourself or your experience, those questions are stupid, not in the way that they are actually bad questions, but in the way that nobody can really help you besides giving you confort. Even if we go into "professional" psychology, the field is laid with mines of subjectiveness. It's just how big and scary our brains are.

 

When you say that those questions have been answered, yes. They have, with a simple phrase that contains an alien concept: "This is subjective." This phrase is what answers all the questions in a way, but really understanding it is much much harder. So what you end up having is someone who asks "will doing X affect my tulpa," and yes, a similar question may have been answered before, but I think it is important to think how the person asking this is dealing with the subject. At least some people, I'm sure, will have the mindset "yeah, sure, I guess that X wont affect my tulpa, but MY X, the one I'm talking about, is slightly different, and I want to make sure I'm not getting in trouble." In one way, I think the community should look at these posts not only as annoying, but also as signs that the person actually really cares, if that makes things a bit better. And again, the "it's all subjective" really invalidates every questions one may have.

 

I think it is a bit hypocritical of people to call this a "scientific community," and then dismiss questions like those as dumb questions. I certainly understand why they would become annoying, but dumb? I don't think so. While there are no theories that might help with questions like these, a question like "how do I know my tulpa is sentient," is a very valuable question.

 

I decided to talk about my lucid dreams experience because I think it's a very similar mindset. I know very little about tulpas, but I have read many many guides and thought about this a fair deal. I've only now decided to being my journey, and I really feel that from this point onward the only way I'm going to know more about my tulpa and tulpas in general is by raising and caring for them, and living with them, and I really understand that now.

 

Anyway, I feel I've just butchered everything I wanted to say, but hopefully someone will get something out of that. I guess as a newbie I want to say I'm sorry for those questions, and that the people who ask them don't ask them because they skipped all the guides or explanations available, or because they are dumb or want to be annoying.

 

Please don't be mad at us mister Mistgod.

[Guest Anonymous]

@RaveCrazedDave

 

Actually I am not mad at all but delighted! I am so glad I did this thread! It started out as a silly rant and turned into something very helpful for me and for others. I now totally agree with you! I have learned from all of this to really be a bit more patient. I like your idea that a "dumb" question at least shows that the newbie cares and is interested. Your points about the subjectivity of tulpa science is so spot on! I am wiser for your wall of text on the subject my friend, and no, you did not "butcher" your response. I thought it was very well said.

 

I have been transformed in fact. I have noticed a tendency for newbie questions to be, if not really ignored, at least kinda neglected sometimes. Like some newbie will come in and ask a "dumb" question, that perhaps we have seen a hundred times from others, and then will stand in lonely isolation waiting for a response. Or a person comes in and makes statements and asks questions that clearly demonstrate a poor understanding of tulpa science. They tend to be ignored a bit by those of us silently rolling our eyes and face palming. I vow never to let them feel abandoned, but to answer the question point them to the guides and the FAQ. People answered my stupid questions and put up with me, it is only fair I pass on the favor.

[Brassow]

In the past, I saw a lot of them made by people just researching it instead of trying it themselves. It made for a pretty unconvincing video. Unfortunately I don't have any links on me.

[Guest Anonymous]

My favorite is Paranormal Kativity and her tulpa piece. She's adorable and she seems so enthusiastic about it, which is nice of her.

[King]

I just watched Ruby Sparks. My god, that just opened a imaginary can of morality worms to think about.