End of my tether. (Two years)

[Lunaclipse]

I'm without knowledge of how to continue. I've been forcing for two years, and all that time, I've been nowhere. I've received nothing in the form of response. I've tried intentional parroting for short whiles to coax a response; I've tried narrating for hours on end about anything and everything; King of Vandenreich's Prism for physical response, but my concentration is so terrible and imagination so wild that I can barely keep the prism still; I've tried just asking him to find a way to let me know that he's there; I've tried listening incredibly intently - so much so that I miss everything that anyone else tries to catch my attention with...

 

I'm literally at the end of my tether. I've sworn to never give up, but I don't know how I'm meant to continue. My belief has dwindled to almost nothing, even with the support of so many friends who also have tulpa/tulpae/tulpas.

 

I'm not waiting for a verbal response. I just want something. Something to show me that he's there. Something that can rekindle my belief.

[WizardMassacre]

I ended up leaving my tulpae, and coming back a few months later. Two of them left a bit after my return, but one (my first one) stayed. I eventually started getting more responses from him, and he ended up making another tulpa just a short while ago.

 

Try taking a break and coming back later. It might want time to develop on its own, who knows?

[Guest Anonymous]

my concentration is so terrible and imagination so wild that I can barely keep the prism still

 

This is what I've started with as well. The only difference I haven't made any sort of promises or anything, it was in the mindset. A mindset born out of desperation, rather than conditioning. In this case it was either making a tulpa or seeing the inside of a crematorium.

 

You need to ask yourself if you need a tulpa or only want one. Then, you need to understand what is making you perceive all the thoughts that go through your mind as yours. It's not about ignoring everything around you, it's about listening to all the distractions and finding the one that you'll eventually call a tulpa. Have you ever had thoughts that seemed to come out of nowhere? These thoughts were most likely coming from the parts of your psyche that were not included in any part of your ego's cognitive processes. But keep this in mind: not every stray thought should be attributed to your tulpa, only those that would match the psychological portrait of its behaviour.

 

Alternatively, you might want to accentuate the development of other aspects that constitute a thoughtform. For example you could try visualising your tulpa and puppeting their movement until you get a form of visual response.

 

 

If all else fails, you can try using certain chemical compounds that alter the state of one's mind. But take caution when approaching that stuff, misuse of it can be dangerous for your health.

 

[Lunaclipse]

 

You need to ask yourself if you need a tulpa or only want one.

 

I used to only want a tulpa, but with the distance I've come, if Tay is there, I'm not going to give up. That would be a horrible thing to do...

I need Tay because I want to save him from what would happen if I gave up. That is why I promised him that I would never give up.

 

And with the Vandenreich's Prism in relation to my imagination, I cannot keep concentration or control what my imagination does to my visualisation. It's out of my circle of interference entirely.

 

 

Then you need to understand what is making you perceive all the thoughts that go through your mind as yours. It's not about ignoring everything around you, it's about listening to all the distractions and finding the one that you'll eventually call a tulpa. Have you ever had thoughts that seemed to come out of nowhere? These were most likely coming from the parts of your psyche that were not included in any part of your personalities cognitive processes. Keep in mind also that not every stray thought should be attributed to your tulpa, but only those that would match the psychological portrait of its behaviour.

 

External distractions are without use, and internal distractions are essentially impossible to follow coherently, again because of my impossibly chaotic imagination. If I try and listen, I literally drown everything out with whatever my mind decides to throw at me.

 

I've never really had many stray thoughts that I could attribute to my tulpa, Tay. The only one I actually found any possible reason to connect was over a year ago. I really tried to communicate as much as possible after it, but I still got no response.

 

- Lunaclipse

 

PS: I'm not going to even approach psychoactives. I'm going to take a natural approach all the way.

[Guest Anonymous]

Have you never considered that your mind simply cannot put up with that, though? That reality can be pretty depressing, but you need to realize something very important: Tulpas can take a very long while to show up. Just because a few people got an outcome in a few month doesn't mean tulpamancy actually takes that short while. With that being said, one would have already given up a year ago, something I applaud you for not doing, I know it must have taken a lot of effort.

 

You mentioned your concentration was 'terrible'. I'd like of you to sit in a calm room with no real apparent distractions, turn off all electronic devices, and really empty your mind of all other thoughts. Work on those concentration issues, that's probably the issue. Attention cut off can greatly throttle tulpamancing overall. Overall I believe that things start to matter once your tulpa becomes vocal because you can work out any issue with them from there, and I've been there as you have, you know. Shitty concentration, bad imagination (which is why we have no wonderland in reality), but you need to work on issues from within as I said before looking into whether a tulpa can exist in your mind.

[Lunaclipse]

Have you never considered that your mind simply cannot put up with that, though? That reality can be pretty depressing, but you need to realize something very important: Tulpas can take a very long while to show up. Just because a few people got an outcome in a few month doesn't mean tulpamancy actually takes that short while. With that being said, one would have already given up a year ago, something I applaud you for not doing, I know it must have taken a lot of effort.

 

You mentioned your concentration was 'terrible'. I'd like of you to sit in a calm room with no real apparent distractions, turn off all electronic devices, and really empty your mind of all other thoughts. Work on those concentration issues, that's probably the issue. Attention cut off can greatly throttle tulpamancing overall. Overall I believe that things start to matter once your tulpa becomes vocal because you can work out any issue with them from there, and I've been there as you have, you know. Shitty concentration, bad imagination (which is why we have no wonderland in reality), but you need to work on issues from within as I said before looking into whether a tulpa can exist in your mind.

 

I live in a house, in which there are no calm rooms. Not even my own... It's always just loud. I'm never alone, either.

 

I will try to find a calm time, but calm is usually only at the extremes of the day in time-relation. My concentration won't be particularly great at midnight or 4 in the morning.

 

And it's not really "bad imagination". It's more "uncontrollable" and "overactive".

 

Thank you, though...

[Guest Anonymous]

 

I live in a house, in which there are no calm rooms. Not even my own... It's always just loud. I'm never alone, either.

 

I will try to find a calm time, but calm is usually only at the extremes of the day in time-relation. My concentration won't be particularly great at midnight or 4 in the morning.

 

And it's not really "bad imagination". It's more "uncontrollable" and "overactive".

 

Thank you, though...

 

That's not really a tulpa-friendly environment. You should find some time to isolate yourself, you could do active forcing in any location as long as it's calm and peaceful really. Best of luck.

[Tirisilex]

I'm no expert on Tulpas but I'm a fairly experienced Meditator. Your concentration sounds like it needs to be worked on. If you cant find a quiet place the next best thing is to get some New Age meditation music and some headphones. I would use your room and listen to the music and learn to focus. Thats the best advice I can give.

[Kaga and Company]

If you can't concentrate anywhere in your own house then I suggest you find somewhere else to try forcing, like a local library, or just outside somewhere. I know it's not an ideal situation, but I can only imagine how difficult it must be to force when you're constantly surrounded by noise. I think a change of environment might be beneficial.

[Lunaclipse]

Next to a road and with no local Library, I'd need to go pretty far. I can shut all my windows and my door and simply lie down on my bed when everyone is out or I'm not at school, but the temperature in my room is so high without ventilation that I easily feel too warm for comfort.

 

I will go to necessary lengths for a quiet environment and peace of mind with natural concentration exercises. Does anyone have ideas to add to concentration exercises?