T-Storm November 8, 2015 November 8, 2015 Ok, I don't know how long I've known about tulpas, (at least 5 years ago though) but ever since the beginning of my first tulpa I've always decided to switch or change something myself or make a whole new tulpa and forget about the last one. However, I can tell my tulpa is still the same tulpa I had since square one. I still hear him sometimes, even though I put him in the back of my mind until further notice. If my tulpa was a painting, then I keep painting the whole canvas white and starting over again and again. That aside, I just want maybe some pointers on how to make a decision on what to make my tulpa's form this time, and how to stick to it. Mostly on how to stick to it because I haven't since the beginning of this and now my tulpa is like water. I was thinking about basing him on a pre-existing character, but I can't even decide on that. Sometimes I wonder what my tupper would be if I would have just let him be, but oh well. my PR my art thread tumblr tulpa log my DA White will talk in this color.
Aijada November 8, 2015 November 8, 2015 Constantly bouncing around doesn't sound like a healthy way for a tulpa to grow. There needs to be some core that is uniquely their own that they can rely on and trust if you want them to actually be able to speak for themselves. It takes a concept of who you are to be able to decide how you want to act. What i'll suggest is that you give your tulpa a basically human form, and let them understand themselves as not much different than you are, as in equally capable of thinking and being a person in their own right. It certainly helps if they ever want to practice possession to already be thinking of themselves as human-like. In my humble opinion, a tulpa should be free to consider themselves a real person who should have access to the real world. I'm personally much happier being a systemmate who gets to be involved in meatspace compared to when i was just a fantasy girl trapped in wonderland. Early member of a large system. Our system questions the way the afterlife and tulpamancy interact. We genuinely suspect that deadies can return to share the mind of the living.
T-Storm November 9, 2015 Author November 9, 2015 Constantly bouncing around doesn't sound like a healthy way for a tulpa to grow. There needs to be some core that is uniquely their own that they can rely on and trust if you want them to actually be able to speak for themselves. It takes a concept of who you are to be able to decide how you want to act. Here's a little update on this, my tulpa seems to have actually picked her own form. The day I posted this I was dreaming (or something) that she had taken the form of Rukia from Bleach when I was in my wonderland. And since I had just woken up I disregarded it as just another random daydream. But turns out that was actually her. I guess all I needed to do was leave her to her own devices. my PR my art thread tumblr tulpa log my DA White will talk in this color.
Aijada November 9, 2015 November 9, 2015 Well that sounds like the best way for it go, yeah. Hope it all works out well Early member of a large system. Our system questions the way the afterlife and tulpamancy interact. We genuinely suspect that deadies can return to share the mind of the living.
Deleted November 10, 2015 November 10, 2015 Here's a little update on this, my tulpa seems to have actually picked her own form. The day I posted this I was dreaming (or something) that she had taken the form of Rukia from Bleach when I was in my wonderland. And since I had just woken up I disregarded it as just another random daydream. But turns out that was actually her. I guess all I needed to do was leave her to her own devices. Just try not to get sick of this form and attempt to change it again. The tulpa will get real sick of yo shit real fast if you try that. We are all mad here
Yuki November 10, 2015 November 10, 2015 "I'm going to raise my son to be a fireman. No wait, a police detective. No wait, an astronaut. No wait, I'll make him be a girl, and be a pop star." In a way, what you've been doing is similarly ridiculous, in the sense that you're imposing your will on what's supposed to be a separate entity from yourself. Rather than doing anything like this, it's better to distance yourself from their form entirely and have them figure it out yourself. And starting over constantly... Do you even care about your tulpa, if you allow yourself to do that sort of thing? Feel free to ask me anything. Suffering is self-imposed. Don't let it control you.
Deleted November 10, 2015 November 10, 2015 "I'm going to raise my son to be a fireman. No wait, a police detective. No wait, an astronaut. No wait, I'll make him be a girl, and be a pop star." In a way, what you've been doing is similarly ridiculous, in the sense that you're imposing your will on what's supposed to be a separate entity from yourself. Rather than doing anything like this, it's better to distance yourself from their form entirely and have them figure it out yourself. And starting over constantly... Do you even care about your tulpa, if you allow yourself to do that sort of thing? I agree with this post 100%. This is why I think its a bad idea to start making a tulpa until some real thought and planning have been put in We are all mad here
Sadame November 10, 2015 November 10, 2015 If she's developed enough to pick her own form, that's a good thing. Now you have to respect that choice and go with it if you want an autonomous being. Only she is allowed to get tired of it and change from now on.
Linkzelda November 10, 2015 November 10, 2015 That aside' date=' I just want maybe some pointers on how to make a decision on what to make my tulpa's form this time, and how to stick to it. Mostly on how to stick to it because I haven't since the beginning of this and now my tulpa is like water.[/quote'] Speculate about it in this context: - If we were to refer to you, it would seem pragmatic to say that no matter how you apply yourself in validating yourself, i.e., action-to-id, it’s not like your thoughts will change your physiological makeup. In other words, your thoughts don’t really have any mental causation towards your physical form. - So, when trying to have them have a form they can stick to, it may just be a projection of your yearning for originality and consistency while absolving from a notion that deviation is an option for them to participate in if they’re in alignment towards that. - But because how your own action-to-id is fluctuating from time to time, you feel it’s required for them to subsequently follow this, if I’m reading the OP right. If this is the case, then maybe you’re trying to cultivate comradery in context of validating an inferiority complex over your sense of being. - So, there’s a plethora of ways that you can paint this blank canvas of satiating yourself of who you are, and potentially acknowledging that by treating them as sentient, you would eventually relinquish conscious fixation and alteration of how they go about cultivating their own mode of action-to-id. While at the same time, they’re treated as autonomous from you, but still being able to tap into whatever cognitive reservoir you would call your mind. - This way, the implied autonomy may be satiated while both parties can go about their merrily way creating nuances in their disposition in general, and then some (e.g. form, etc.) while acknowledging the presumed limits of each (e.g. you as the host not being able to mentally alter your physiological makeup, and vice versa if they wanted their mental efforts to change your physical body as well). - And if there seems to be issues in them presumably tapping into those autonomous processes to find a form, then maybe you both can find methodologies that can reduce the gap in getting there; whether it’s in a form of visualization, or even writing your thoughts out on who you, and they are, if it can be something you both can come to peace with, then, there you go. - But just because a tulpa may have nuances in their form in general doesn’t mean they can’t be themselves. It’s more so a question of ethics behind who has more dominion in altering the action-to-id processes of validating themselves while who reduces, or relinquishes control from that. It’s easy for us to create a guidepost for them to exemplify a path they should walk on, but eventually, to potentially ease angst towards identity issues, work towards something to where they create their own guideposts to follow. The key being that their mental efforts are taking dominion over that, and not solely yours. [align=center]7 Hours of Active Forcing 8 Hours & 29 Minutes of Active Forcing 10 Hours of Active Forcing[/align]
T-Storm November 10, 2015 Author November 10, 2015 "I'm going to raise my son to be a fireman. No wait, a police detective. No wait, an astronaut. No wait, I'll make him be a girl, and be a pop star." In a way, what you've been doing is similarly ridiculous, in the sense that you're imposing your will on what's supposed to be a separate entity from yourself. Rather than doing anything like this, it's better to distance yourself from their form entirely and have them figure it out yourself. And starting over constantly... Do you even care about your tulpa, if you allow yourself to do that sort of thing? Over the years I've been a very indecisive person which is to be expected, since I was growing up and I didn't know what to do with my life, and I still don't. And looking back I think I saw my tulpa more like a toy than anything. Did I care about my tulpa? Yeah, as much as a little kid cares about his teddy bear. That's all my tulpa really was, just some figment of my mind that I could shape to whatever I wanted to make me feel more secure. But after giving up on one thing after another in my life, I finally got to the point where I wanted at least my tulpa to be stable since everything else isn't. When I posted this thread I basically kicked my tulpa out of my head because I didn't know what to do with her, so I came here because I still wanted a tulpa but I wanted to start over and do it right. And I think at that point when I finally left her alone she took the chance to be whatever she wanted to be and then came back to me when I was in the right state of mind to accept her the way she is. I didn't really realize how stupid I was the past 5 years until I read all these replies. If she's developed enough to pick her own form, that's a good thing. Now you have to respect that choice and go with it if you want an autonomous being. Only she is allowed to get tired of it and change from now on. Just try not to get sick of this form and attempt to change it again. The tulpa will get real sick of yo shit real fast if you try that. Yep, she's definitely on her own now. I quit trying to change my poor tupper. my PR my art thread tumblr tulpa log my DA White will talk in this color.
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