Do you and your tulpas ever blend together?

[Brassow]

With both of us liking Steven Universe, we refer to this as "fusion."

 

We do from time to time, not often with any serious reasoning behind it, but more to have fun. I'm also surprised at the amount of people that do it as well, because there is next to no mention of it.

 

Perhaps this is the new frontier of research for the community that I've been looking for? Should we attempt to make guides on this topic?

[Guest Anonymous]

Brassow, you may be on to something! It may be a "new frontier." Lumi mentioned that in the early days no one talked about blending at all and were in fact reluctant to do so. But this poll really shows how much of it is actually going on! Is this a "tulpa skill" akin to possession or switching then, or just a side effect?

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With Davie and I, it isn't so much of a skill or side effect, but more of a constant trait.

[Guest Anonymous]

When Davie and I first joined the tulpa community, we thought that was the ultimate goal of every tulpa, to be completely distinct and separate. It made us feel unworthy or unfinished and insecure, because we really knew that would never be the case for me. It is nice to learn that our original assumptions about that were false. The tulpamancer-tulpa relationships (systems) vary widely and we have the situation that is best for each of us. :-) I love that!

 

I think there is no universal, definitive "goal".

It's like with everything else in life - your goals are what you pick as your goals.

 

That's also a good explanation for why I call Esterina "fully-developed" as a tupper; my goals for a tupper are full autonomy, the most independence possible and just all around having that tupper be a separate and "full" person in every regard, who can think, feel, exist, have opinions etc. separately, independently and simultaneously, just without a separate body.

(And she agrees on that, it's the "goal" for her too.)

 

So the reason I say Esterina is at the goal, fully-developed, isn't that she's somehow better than any other tupper, or something like that.

("Better" is a disgusting word anyway when comparing one person to another person.)

It's simply because there are no more goals to reach, not counting "extra-stuff" like switching and the like.

Because what we both wish for, what we see as a goal for her / us to reach, is already reached.

 

And anyone can have any goal they want, and no one has the right to tell anyone that their goals are better or worse than someone else's.

There's a very basic philosophy I follow, among others: "As long as you don't hurt anyone, live your life the way you truly want."

 

So, yeah.

That's what I wanted to say to that - back to topic. xP

 

 

Greets,

AG

[Guest Anonymous]

Thank you for saying those things. :-) If blending is a skill, and not just a side effect, it is up to the tulpamancer and tulpa as to whether or not they find it useful or helpful to do. Just like with possession, switching and imposition, it can be taken or left. There still may be other "skills" or traits out there in the community we haven't really focused discussion on. In this very thread we were talking about "surfacing" in which the tulpa influences the host via emotions to act out in a physical way. Not quite possession, but yet perhaps related. If surfacing can happen accidentally and spontaneously, it seems to me it could happen deliberately as well. Perhaps it would be a very brief, transient form of possession.

[Luminesce]

"Blending" is called other things in other communities. In other places it can be considered a skill, not when happening randomly but when consciously induced. However in the tulpa community it's usually not, as we put a lot of emphasis on developing tulpa independence. Even without the old insecurities of being fake and proving tulpas aren't just us roleplaying, there still is a general want for tulpas to be fairly separate from their hosts. That is, of course, decided on a host-by-host basis. Many people from other communities, or who aren't comfortable with calling their thoughtforms "tulpas" decidedly, have less want of that. But people raised specifically on this community's beliefs will typically aim for strict independence, as that's one of the emphasized goals of tulpamancy in the first place - another person in your mind that is not you.

 

But again, up to the person how they feel about that.

[Guest Anonymous]

Davie and I had to go to other forums, such as soulbonding.org, to really start to learn a broader perspective and understand ourselves in relation to tulpamancy. We actually learn as much or more from people who have come in from those outside plural communities. In my humble opinion, and Davie's not as humble opinion (hee hee), it is limiting to have too narrow a focus and there is a broader "science" out there that needs to be considered for someone to have a better scope of understanding. It is also important to remember that internet based, psychologically focused tulpamancy is only about six years old.

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Also, some supposedly super awesomesauce tulpamancers couldn't find their ass with both hands.

[Luminesce]

I see it as a sort of choice between potential members of any community on what they'd like to believe and focus on. Tulpas will forever be psychology based with a focus on independence, autonomy, and the base skills we have here. Other communities have their own priorities and typical beliefs. Each one will (probably?) do its best to accommodate those with differing beliefs, but they won't change for them. If you really don't fit in in one community, you should try another. But nothing is stopping someone who has the definition of soulbonds from being here if they so choose. They can still learn from this community and us from them, but it probably won't be as perfect a match as a soulbonding community. That being said, for all I know this community is the largest and most supportive for its surrounding similar-thoughtform area. I wouldn't know if one community was as active as another since I'm only part of this one, so maybe some people deal with not being able to share their metaphysical beliefs just to be here. The Metaphysics forum doesn't just have to be for completely occult magicks, you know..

 

Anyways, my point was, tulpa.info is not trying to encompass any and all types of thoughtforms. But it does aim to support the majority of them should they wish to be here. The focus will always be on what we consider "tulpas", but given all types of thoughtforms are subject to subjectivity, there's really no end to the possibilities in any. Which means there's no end to the possible productive beliefs we could adopt from others' belief systems, etc. That's the primary reason any "scientific" community embraces those different from them, because different is how you learn, and science is all about learning. But there's always a limit where it goes from obscure but meaningful to apparent nonsense, and that's generally where we tell people they're better off elsewhere.

[Guest Anonymous]

Although, the discussion about outside communities and skills and definitions not central to the core of the tulpa community are related to the OP, we are starting to slowly slide off topic. It was probably my fault. Too much Mistgod miasma in my aura. Let's get back to the OP shall we?

 

I was wondering how common is this trait of blending for tulpas? Does your tulpa or do your tulpas blend with you? Are you worried blending might lead to uncontrolled integration and loss of individuality for your tulpa or host?

 

Thanks for your responses!

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Oh and great points Lumi!

[Guest Anonymous]

I just thought I would add this link to this discussion. Mistgod made a thread about blending (which we were wondering about and calling "merging") back on July 10th of 2015: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-about-merging

[Kaytwo]

We spend some time co-fronting (maybe this counts?). This is generally us talking back and forth, slightly detached from reality. During that period of time, it feels as if the brain is splitting resources 50/50. Ashley and I might alternate controlling frequently without much thought. This state feels very fluid and communication comes quite easily. However, while co-fronting we remain distinct, her presence is separate and strengthened. Her thoughts and physical actions feel distinct from mine in this state.

 

||As much as I like switching, and I really really do, it gets lonely. Sharing time up front is like hanging out in a body that's auto-piloting around, guiding it occasionally as me and Kay talk. It's practically the default state if we've been switching a lot or tired.

 

Out of curiosity, we experimented with blending last spring having not fully experienced it prior. Our exploration consisted of active forcing, essentially meditation, focused on feeling our presences overlap. It took a while to have any meaningful effect. Blending (we call it merging) was interesting, but got very mindfucky sometimes. I noticed entering the blended state felt like a synchronization of our thoughts and memories and emotions. There was a distinct sensation of being two separate parts of an averaged, synchronized system. Talking was different, non-verbal communication was much easier, but verbal communication was more challenging, as it felt much harder to "break away" and form a separate thoughtstream. It takes us some time to settle in to, afterwards there was one unified thought stream, which felt like the collective mental resources of both of us. Unfortunately, for us staying blended for long usually becomes increasing disorienting, our separate identities somehow feel imperceptible. The identity confusion it can cause is very strange, instead of feeling like both of us we felt like neither. We don't do it regularly because talking merged feels less natural, and staying merged is draining. It seemed to have residual effects as well, emotional communication was effortless but she couldn't impose her voice for a little while.

 

||I was not a fan of merging, not regularly at least. Glad to have done it, but not fond enough to do it often anymore. At first it was, whoa cool, this is new! Then, I couldn't feel where I ended and she began. Merging is one of the trippier things we've done sober xD Doing it intensively was not for us. Afterwards I'd feel all blendy and tired. There weren't any lasting effects, but as someone else mentioned it's uncomfortable! Maybe you have to get used to it?

 

Does blending feel natural to those who do it?