Beginner Questions General

[Guest]

Parrotnoia is a separate issue, you will be anticipating what they might say as opposed to saying everything you want them to say. It's just giving them the pathway to speak.

[Luminesce]

When forcing, sometimes I find myself thinking about what my tulpa could answer or how it could react to my words.

Is it better to cast away such thoughts or welcome them?

 

It depends on how early in the development process you are. Thinking about how your future tulpa would respond or think or act about certain matters is perfect personality forcing and was the majority of Lucilyn's development, since I'd already had tulpas for 5 years and was familiar enough with how to actually have one.

 

But if your tulpa's already showing signs of sentience, personality forcing can just get in the way of them developing their own vocality. So just do it (if you so choose, personality forcing isn't mandatory, but it can help) until you're ready to move on to actually forcing them as a tulpa, rather than thinking about who they'll be. (You could be past that point by now, yes)

[Guest]

Personality forcing is said to be abandoned, but it still has it's uses. Honestly though once the tulpa is vocal, just talk to them and guide them as a friend. We joke, but Bear seriously took me aside and set me straight on a few things at the beginning of this year, he said I was snarky and I could see how he thought it was mean. Personality forcing on a mature tulpa definitely isn't the same as a non-vocal one, he talked to me like a friend and asked that I would have a more positive attitude, be kinder, and generally less snarky I guess. He said I wasn't just saying things for myself, but when I said anything it was a representation of the whole system. He guilted me with puppydog eyes. So I got nicer. I still sometimes don't come off as the nicest person, mostly because I really don't care what anyone thinks but my family, but hey, they were the ones thinking, so, I just let them guide me and correct me. I don't want to be the problem child anyway, that's Bear's job. (That wasn't snarky, that was playful teasing.)

 

[bear] I can vouch that we did joke about it, but it actually was a thing. She's really nice to me and our family, but she has a mean streak in her sometimes. Usually she's really very loving and kind but she's kind of the protector among us, so she has to be a little standoffish I guess. Untrusting? That's fine, she can do that since I tend to be a little too trusting.

[Luminesce]

The problem might be calling it personality "forcing". Once the base sentience/whatnot of a tulpa is there, you shouldn't have to "personality force" them, I'd think. You could, but people here probably wouldn't encourage it.

 

I'm talking about the part before you start getting responses from your tulpa, when they barely or don't at all exist yet. You could just call it "Thinking about who they're going to be". Running through scenarios like "This is how they might act or think in this scenario" is really at the root of tulpa creation in most cases and should speed up all the following developmental processes of creating a tulpa when done first. And while "Personality forcing" does traditionally mean exactly that (often lamely suggested in the past as just making a list of traits...), I think the "forcing" part implies tulpamancy is already involved and therefore gives people these days the idea it's trying to change their personality when they already exist (and have one).

 

Like I said, you probably can do that, especially if they have particularly negative traits that could cause problems. But it's most useful when done before that point in their development in the first place, including before you've started at all.

[Guest]

Agreed ^^

[Elcocas]

I have some doubts, in case of getting a serious tulpa to experiment and secondary ways to have a friend, do you see a good reason to create a tulpa?

 

On the other hand I really like drugs, would I have a problem with my tulpa? I am also somewhat depressed and I have OCD, I don't know if it is a reason not to create a tulpa.

 

Finally, would the tulpa have full access to my memory? there are things that I would like to save I have done things throughout my life.

 

My English is very poor if you do not understand something tell me and I try to say it well. Greetings and thanks.

[Ranger]

I have some doubts, in case of getting a serious tulpa to experiment and secondary ways to have a friend, do you see a good reason to create a tulpa?

 

It mostly depends on what you mean by "experiment". If you mean you are trying something new because you are lonely and want a companion, then that's fine. If you intention is to throw away a tulpa if the experiment doesn't go well or gets boring, that's not a good reason to create a tulpa.

 

Most people create tulpas because they want a companion, and that's a perfectly fine reason to create a tulpa.

 

On the other hand I really like drugs, would I have a problem with my tulpa?  I am also somewhat depressed and I have OCD, I don't know if it is a reason not to create a tulpa.

 

I personally don't recommend drug use and using drugs is not necessary for tulpamancy, but I have never heard of cases where people using drugs can't make tulpas. I have heard of cases where drugs made it easier/harder for hosts to force and/or hear their tulpa depending on the situation, but that's usually because the host changed their drug habits while already forcing.

 

Finally, would the tulpa have full access to my memory?  there are things that I would like to save I have done things throughout my life.

 

Usually, yes, tulpas have full access to your memories because you share the same head. I know it's possible to deliberately hide information or suppress your tulpa's ability to access information, but that does not always work and it will more likely than not lead to frustration.

 

A tulpa cannot overwrite or delete your memories without your approval, a tulpa can do everything you can do. A tulpa doesn't have magic brain powers.

[eddi]

Hi,

 

A beginner's question in the beginners' questions thread...

 

My tulpa (who I accidentally created in 2004) can talk to me using the mindvoice but 99% of the time he communicates by touching my body

 

Are the any ways in which I can encourage him to use the mindvoice?

 

He affirms to me that he doesn't use it because he doesn't want people to think I'm schizophrenic

 

Thanks!

[Ranger]

If your tulpa is afraid to speak for that reason, then it may help to establish some rules.

 

For example, one rule could be you can't respond to them out loud, you have to use mindvoice. I have reminded my host to respond to me in mindvoice when alone so in public she never makes the same mistake in front of other people. Another rule could be if you need to focus on something, ask your tulpa to not talk to you until you are finished. Having these rules may help them feel more comfortable and confident about speaking up.

[YukariTelepath]

Hi, eddi. It sounds like he's pretty developed, you can probably just talk with him about him trying out a mindvoice to talk with you. Communication will be easier if he can use words. Schizophrenia isn't just about hearing voices, there are other things to a diagnosis. You can have schizophrenia and also have a tulpa that talks to you (in a mental voice). Talking via mindvoice is pretty standard for tulpa communication.