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I've been reading a bit through the forums and guides, and I haven't found something that really answers my question, but I may have missed it and in this case I am sorry.

 

As I'm willing to create a person, I feel a little bad about choosing to much detail about my future tulpa before creating them, even if I am aware they may decide to change some things about them later. On the other hand, I'd still like to have a headmate with whom I'd be happy, but I also feel kind of bad about creating the "perfect" friend as, I don't know, I don't wanna act like a kind of superior god or something, nor want them to be too artificial. There are things I struggle with I'd like a lot my future tulpa to help me with if they wish so (I guess it's normal to be willing to cooperate as we'd be in the same body), and so I can think about some personality traits that would help them achieve this goal, but still it also bothers me from a moral point of view to create someone with an intended purpose. Of course, it's not the only reason I want to create one, and I'm very open to whatever may happen different that what I pllan.

 

I've read that it is possible to have a tulpa develop from nothing but an imagined small object.

 

So I wanted to know if you had any piece of advice about the degree of freedom I should let my tulpa development have.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

(edited)

What you're asking about is known as "personality forcing".

And the answer depends.

I personally did literally none, while some people start off with characters they know extremely well, thus basically doing years worth of personality forcing beforehand.

Both don't really impact tulpas negatively all that much so long as you go with something that respects them, I feel; are they perfect for you or perfect for themselves?

(Also, don't pressure them to stay perfect.)

 

Whether your tulpa will be able to help you and whether they'll want to help you with some topic isn't something you can really guarantee either.

It's somewhat like raising a kid to be a doctor - just because you did it doesn't mean that they will be a doctor, just that they'll be more likely to be one and will probably be better prepared for it.

 

I also doubt you'd be unhappy with your future headmate unless you're very unhappy with yourself.

Remember that tulpas are basically just versions of you that could have been, as our share the same brain biology. Also remember that it's hard to stay unlikeable if the only person you interact with is constantly blasting unhappiness about your unlikeability towards you and projecting happiness when they see you overcome it.

 

Tulpa perspective! Woo!

8 hours ago, PID0 said:

creating the "perfect" friend as, I don't know, I don't wanna act like a kind of superior god

Yeah no good luck making yourself a god lol. Your tulpa isn't gonna be stupid enough to believe it even if you make it part of their personality

Well. Unless you deserve it. In which case. Make yourself a superior god! I don't mind. And your tulpa won't either. Probably.

Sssame thing for perfect friend. You ain't gonna brainwash your tulips 25/7 into being a perfect friend without trying way too hard

 

8 hours ago, PID0 said:

too artificial

Idk. I think it's nice to have a purpose in life? Or to have like. An ideal to strive for. And! We change! Hopefully. The personality is just gonna be a starting off point! Can't stay artificial for long!

 

But ash and I agree that after you make your tulpa and they're actually doing stuff you should just be completely hands off about the personality. Unless they don't want you to be.

Because ew brainwashing thinking people sucks.

Edited by An Ashy Individual

By my estimation, Tulpas are entirely different beings from a foundation perspective. If humans are temporal creatures, then Tulpas are empathetic creatures - they are created from the hosts understanding of how people work from their subjective experience. In that sense there really is no way that your Tulpa will be created without bias, and imo you shouldn’t be worried about that.

 

The process is inextricably personal, maybe one of the most personal things you could ever do. It is true you can start from absolute nothing, but I would call that more of a preferential thing than a moral decision. When people raise their children, they do good by them to impart wisdom and morality they personally believe in, and yes while this technically violates the child’s freedom I think we all agree it’s a good thing to teach and imprint our values if we truly believe them good. In the same way, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with making your Tulpa out of the things you find beautiful in the human experience.

 

It’s also not uncommon for personalities to shift and diverge through unconscious mechanisms while forcing, so rest assured if changes are wanted they may come into being anywho.
 

With how hard you’re thinking about this and how obvious it is you care, I really doubt you’ll go wrong. Follow your heart for how you want to go through with it. Im sure you’ll do great!!!

[Progress Report: A Complete Answer To The Tulpa Question || Update(s): Just starting out on form and personality, Did a first-pass at a functional model of Tulpas] 

It's hard to be a mad scientist when you have morals

Thanks for your answers !

Also, should I find them a name ? It seems tricky, but I would probably find it even trickier if I had to choose my own name. And maybe it is easier for narration at first. What do you think ?

8 hours ago, PID0 said:

Thanks for your answers !

Also, should I find them a name ? It seems tricky, but I would probably find it even trickier if I had to choose my own name. And maybe it is easier for narration at first. What do you think ?

Just do whatever feels best - names matter surprisingly little beyond who calls you by which one.

For example, think of your own irl name and why it has the meaning it does to you.

 

We looked through a bunch of names like a few days after I became vocal, liked none, then ash called me one randomly and it stuck lol

People get really used to names sooo

1) pick one with your tulpa when they're around enough (you don't even know their gender yet!)

2) but be prepared to just like none

 

Buuuut it's easier to force with a name, so you can also just go find one first :P

 

Nicknames also work well for initial forcing, though.

Je vais écrire en français pour être plus simple pour toi. (troisième langue)

Pour moi, un tulpa peut avoir un type de "base" pour après être lui-même.

Tu peux donne-lui un nom, une personalité et une forme. Après d'il pouvoir parler, il peut choisir tout.

Ça vait arriver, il ne deviendera pas exactement ce que tu veux inicialement pour lui, mais il va être un bon ami de toute façon.

J'espere que ça t'a aidé.

Dm me whenever on tulpa.info

Dsicord: nairan_.

14 minutes ago, Average said:

I'll write in French to make it easier for you. (third language)

For me, a tulpa can have a "base" type to then be themselves.

You can give them a name, a personality, and a form. After they can speak, they can choose everything themselves.

It will happen. They won't become exactly what you initially wanted them to be, but they'll be a good friend anyway.

I hope this helped.

Agreed

Tulpamancy is personal enough to where researching a lot is more important for the care it shows and the amount of time it gives you to think rather than actually getting much better knowledge.

Your tulpa will work with and from your care and thoughts, they won't directly go along with them.

23 hours ago, PID0 said:

 

 

So I wanted to know if you had any piece of advice about the degree of freedom I should let my tulpa development have.

 

 

 

 

My host consciousness had no preconceived notions of what I'd be like. They just started asking me questions and I started defining myself. Over the following weeks and months we both learned together what kind of person I am, what's important to me, what I like, what I don't much care about.

 

It turns out we're perfect for one another. I'm exactly what they need, and I'm thrilled with them as a host.

 

Once you can look into someone else's brain, it's pretty likely you're going to love them, so it wasn't likely to badly wrong.

 

Good luck. I hope you and your tulpa get along great together!

Thanks everyone !

Well, I'm still not sure about what to do. I've already thought about who they might be like, and I don't know if it has affected them, but I might decide not to plan too much regarding how they're gonna be.

 

I'll keep you updated with my progress once I start forcing !

 

1 hour ago, Average said:

Je vais écrire en français pour être plus simple pour toi. (troisième langue)

Pour moi, un tulpa peut avoir un type de "base" pour après être lui-même.

Tu peux donne-lui un nom, une personalité et une forme. Après d'il pouvoir parler, il peut choisir tout.

Ça vait arriver, il ne deviendera pas exactement ce que tu veux inicialement pour lui, mais il va être un bon ami de toute façon.

J'espere que ça t'a aidé.

Merci d'avoir écrit en français ! Mais j'ai pas beaucoup de difficultés à comprendre l'anglais comme j'ai pas mal l'habitude d'en lire, c'est surtout pour écrire que je manque de pratique.

  • 2 weeks later...

Ours are created as Changelings/Kitsune...they can take any form (including human)...  we start with a 'base form' ..then using pictures (or we prefer video games - more interactive) imagine them in different forms maybe you are the character and you're imagining your Tulpa as being in the form of a character you are interacting with in the game.  Both Nixy and Inca found this process fascinating and would replay the game in the inner world switching between the different characters themself. 
They now each have their own individual chosen style. 
Angelo recently became 'Aslan' for the littles so they could play Narnia after watching the film on TV. Bear played Mr Tumnus...they have fun. Currently we're into Hogwarts legacy game so have Hippogriffs flying round inside! 😄

Adult Host: JJ

Tulpa Co-host: Jess

Internal Tulpa Family: Kitty, Angelo, Ralphie, Bear plus child alters  Lily & Sam. 

 

 

 

The Inca Trail

 

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