Linkzelda August 23, 2013 August 23, 2013 My guess is he/she only read the last line And miss this information that others should consider that this guy is giving me? I get more insight from Sands and a few others members than I possibly could from the Q&A section. Why do you need to state that when you've mentioned how you didn't read all of my post either way? Why can't people just take the time to split what was discussed about, think for a bit, then add on. There's no one rushing you to make a response Sands, when I dish out all sorts of topics, I know it will take people a bit more time to formulate responses. I've already stated my points to discuss with, and you can pick and choose whatever you want to talk about, or just ignore them altogether. I apologize if I gave any implications that people have to respond quickly to any of my posts. I'd figure that for a discussion as big of a deal as this with how epidemics with the reddit link would create would involve more thought-out posts than short and vague posts. But if that's not working, I'll just aim for conciseness then, even though in the past it didn't work out as much. *shrugs* [align=center]7 Hours of Active Forcing 8 Hours & 29 Minutes of Active Forcing 10 Hours of Active Forcing[/align]
Sands August 23, 2013 Author August 23, 2013 Alright, I'll try to understand what was just said. If you are telling me how I said your point is all over the place, I said it because... Well, you are kind of all over the place in my eyes and I don't always get your point, so I warned you about that. Is it my fault or your fault, who the fuck knows. I just couldn't get your point and I told you right away so you know. If you are pointing out how I talked about typos, I meant my own post. It was quite a long one and I was feeling a bit too lazy to go over it to see if any slipped past, especially considering my keyboard likes to drop few keys. So, I pointed that out and said there might be some typos and my reason, which was that I'm lazy. If you mean myself talking about how I might've written something in a shitty way, that's... Uh, exactly what it says on the tin. I'm not the best writer and misunderstandings happen, so if something wasn't clear, I hope myself saying that might happen would make you want to point out when something wasn't clear to you because of the way I wrote it. Don't really see where it was my argument. What exactly did you mean here? Right, as for the roleplaying thing I'm sure you wanted to know and I'm over my what to start working on it. Let's figure out what roleplaying is first. I did already write once that there's a difference between pretending to have a tulpa and believing you have a tulpa. The person who wrote their confession obviously was pretending, roleplaying. Sure, maybe there are unconscious puppets. Hell, maybe tuppers are nothing but, but I don't see it exactly like that. In that case, even if they were unconsciously puppeting the tupper (assuming that's not what tuppers are), they would believe they have a tulpa. They wouldn't think they're roleplaying. A roleplayer knows when they are roleplaying. Is that roleplaying? I wouldn't call it such. How do I know I'm not? Well, read above, I guess. That, and I'm a sad ronery neckbeard nerd who has done that gay ass PnP roleplaying shit like Dunegons and Dragons and such. That is roleplaying, where you pretend to be a little elf girl and have a blast. I've had sessions and done that, so I have pretended to be a character in a game with others. Roswell is nothing like that. I can't say for sure what exactly he is, but he is far from a roleplaying character. The character is always my mask, even when it's a really good one. Roswell feels more than that. That and well you know, shit has happened and I haven't always been conscious when he has. But maybe that goes closer to the crazy territory and soon I find out that I actually had a mental illness all along, but I can at least tell you it was different from roleplaying. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Linkzelda August 23, 2013 August 23, 2013 Thanks for the clarification on the typo, Sands. That was completely my fault in misinterpreting that, and I gracefully accept any rebuke from others that caught onto that. Right' date=' as for the roleplaying thing I'm sure you wanted to know and I'm over my what to start working on it. Let's figure out what roleplaying is first. I did already write once that there's a difference between pretending to have a tulpa and believing you have a tulpa. The person who wrote their confession obviously was pretending, roleplaying. Sure, maybe there are unconscious puppets. Hell, maybe tuppers are nothing but, but I don't see it exactly like that. In that case, even if they were unconsciously puppeting the tupper (assuming that's not what tuppers are), they would believe they have a tulpa. They wouldn't think they're roleplaying. A roleplayer knows when they are roleplaying. Is that roleplaying? I wouldn't call it such.[/quote'] Exactly Sands, I understand that you're not roleplaying, the very fact that you're still on this forum and still sane shows that you have attachments to tulpa.info just like anyone would, despite of its bad moments. When I've read your experiences with Roswell in the past (trust me I read them), I knew from that start that you're not a bullshitter, in fact, after I filtered out what people would see you as being aggressive, you gave some insightful concepts, but again, how you formatted it made it look like you were self-stultifying yourself, it just made it hard to see if you were just trying to get over the confusion we all go through into this. I'll be brutally honest with you. I want you to be vocal and express your views, you have every right to do that as I or any member can, but you just need to express it towards other topics other than what happened in the past. The reason why I threw in the insults at you is that you worked way too fucking hard to have the experience you had with Roswell to go in vain with people who would misinterpret the intentions with tough love and getting these people to calm down . What I'm trying to get at is, you worked hard, you did things that made a breakthrough with Roswell, and you have a genuine tulpa because you went through the existential aspects that makes Roswell, Roswell. And that will continue the more you interact and live your life with him. Just don't throw that chance of inspiration (what you've went through) down the gutter by worrying too much on other people is all I'm getting at. I wouldn't be talking to you if I didn't have any respect towards you, Sands.I understand that people need to use their brain and talk with their tulpa when they reached a consistent stage of mind-voice interaction and/or auditory imposition, and yes, there are people who need to do that more before they even think of asking others anything else. But again, you know, and I know that not everyone is like that, there are some sensible and reasonable people like you, but again, we all tend to harbor all sorts of idiosyncrasies that gets the best of us. Where you tried so damn hard that it's impossible not to get a little crazy from it, I've had my fair share of that (from other forums). When I say idiosyncrasies, I didn't mean mental illness, just cognitive biases. When you filter out all the worrying in the past, when you're not tied down by the shackles from it, you have just as much potential to be the deadliest, inspiring, and go-to person for insight. I'm being serious with you here, I try to see the good in every member here simply because I know we're ALL just trying to understand what the hell is going on with this tulpa phenomenon. And again, it's perfectly understandable that you think you're not wording your intentions correctly, I can sympathize with you that if I make the same breakthroughs you've reached with Roswell, I wouldn't be able to describe the overwhelming thrill that comes with seeing one's tulpa succeed in independence. EDIT: Shit, auto-correct on Roswell's name, I apologize for that Roswell. [align=center]7 Hours of Active Forcing 8 Hours & 29 Minutes of Active Forcing 10 Hours of Active Forcing[/align]
left blank August 23, 2013 August 23, 2013 Wow. Young people lying about the fact they can't induce enough of a diffuse sanity barrier to have sentient 'imaginary friends'. I'm really starting to feel my age. BACK IN MY DAY... There's nothing wrong with not having the time or capacity to produce a so-called 'tulpa'. If it's not your forté, can it and dive headfirst into your number one life passion. Simple, easy, and effective.
Zero August 24, 2013 August 24, 2013 the only thing i don't get is why people like sands care much more than is necessary about people who are RPing and mods seem to not give a shit as long as everybody's happy. There needs to be some sort of balance. Just putting up a "no badging" rule won't change shit, there needs to be some sort of system that's not as lenient as what we have now, but also not tyrannic - just something that prevents new people from wanting to "be a part of it" and more experienced mancers from having to give the same rants every single day because they see the same shit every single day. It's always the same argument - "hur .info is turning to shit" "hur it's not, you're just shit" - basically just a no u loop. The way I see it, the most practical mentality would be: As long as you don't have a tulpa, faking one won't help you get one unless you're deliberately parroting it as a forcing method, not "to be a part of the group". Also, if you do have a tulpa and somebody says you're RPing - don't go starting some bitchy cry-drama over how your tulpa is real and people should believe you. Just ignore them, you made your tulpa for you and if they're calling you a fake it's their problem, not yours. It bothers me to no end how people will go out of their way to prove their tulpa's existence. I'm willing to bet if I told someone like Irish that his tulpa is a fake that he'd just say "lol k" and move the fuck on with whatever he's doing, and so should everyone else in my opinion. tl;dr don't care so much about proving your tulpa, be patient in making one and for christs sake don't pretend to have a tulpa just so you can fit in
left blank August 24, 2013 August 24, 2013 ^ strawman This isn't an attempt to debate; I'm dispensing common sense. I find this entire argument ridiculously absurd.
Dr. Faust August 24, 2013 August 24, 2013 I think the whole issue is an age gap of the posters. We have 20-somethings who can write complete sentences. We have teenagers who write in AIMspeak. Perhaps the answer might be enforcement of grammar rules, so that outside of Off-Topic and one's own personal Progress Report posts like this are impossible.
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