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[Guest]

I'm fucking around, but yeah. I wouldn't say it's necessarily hard, but it's not as easy as it looks. There's always the dolt who watches a lot of gameplay, decides "this looks easy, what's wrong with everyone?" And then dies twice at firelink, and another five times in the undead-burg before realizing that they're just walking the same path literally everyone before them has. And then they're gud.

 

I'm not super familiar with your bullet-hell game, as generally try to distance myself from Japanese shit (Aside from like, two mangas and a game, I fucking hate everything about Japan, and Japanese culture), but I've heard-tell that touhou is supposedly one of the easier BH franchises that exist. Usually in threads where people are trashing on other games in the genre, with "Now THIS is a hard bullet-hell game!", followed by "Yeah no". Just looks like memorization to me, though. I mean, I can technically play some pretty complicated stuff on the piano because I took a week to figure it out, but I'm not actually a good pianist, or even a decent one.

 

Now, if that shit's randomized every time, I'll be blown away by people who can actually manage it.

[Luminesce]

Dark Souls is just as "memorization" as Touhou really. They're completely different games, but you can memorize the game itself - or just the enemies if anything's random - and then.. executing the playing is the hard part. Same with Touhou, except both of those things are much harder in it. And if you aren't using others' videos/replays to figure out the patterns (Touhou is all about reading and manipulating patterns) then it's ungodly difficult. On Hard and Lunatic anyway.

 

Not saying I'd breeze through any dark souls game, but aside from some periodic surprises I haven't seen anything that is generally difficult in normal gameplay. The bosses (in Bloodborne at least - I think Dark Souls is more vague about what's a boss and what's just really strong) are definitely difficult, again until you figure out how they work. But this is all assuming you're a good enough player to "figure stuff out" in the first place. Not everyone is in DS, although I think it's got a certain level of "Just gonna grind till I suck less". Touhou on the other hand breaks most people on the easiest difficulty's campaign. I play normal casually and hard for fun, though lunatic (and sometimes hard) requires active learning and memorization rather than just skill.

 

 

Also I'm just good at games in general. Though I can't speak for the types I don't play, because I don't play them. I'm less good in the BS-difficulty platforming/gimmicky games department for sure. But otherwise I play everything from Touhou to Osu to TF2 to Terraria and Minecraft (yes, after 4,000 hours there is such a thing as good at Minecraft) to JRPGs to Bloons Tower Defense 5 to Smash Bros and so on. I cover a pretty wide range of game genres and the only one I actively play that anyone can really deny me being good at is Osu, because Asian difficulty and AGGuy refuses to acknowledge anything less than godly as impressive. But I'm limited by the amount of time I can practice a day before my hand hurts too much to keep playing (while I can play TF2 or Warframe for eight hours straight just fine.. and do).

[Sock]

Dark Souls being hard is a joke, unless you're talking about PVP. At least to non-casuals who know what hard is anyways, since it's pretty popular to call the DS series "really hard games". Their difficulty is sensationalized. Have a look at the game Reisen and Tewi came from:

(This is my favorite boss fight in any game ever. It gives me goosebumps every time, so I highly recommend watching the

as opposed to the timestamp if you've got the time)

 

This brings back memories...of other SHMUP fans getting all high and mighty about how slow and easy Touhou games were in comparison to Psikyo's, Raizing's, and of course, CAVE's. Ah, the long lasting flamewars and accusations of indecency~ ;)

 

Heh, I'm not even really kidding about the above either, I used to be really big in to shmups, my favorites being the R-Types and Psikyo's, though I was also pretty familiar with the more popular CAVE stuff, too. I was also pretty big in to Touhou, as well. You can say it had a good deal of effect on how my current mind dwellers are formed. I found myself being often more partial to the PC-98 games, strangely enough. I also liked the comics too, my favorite being the Eastern and Little/Strange and Bright nature deity ones.

[Guest]

You sure play a lot of vidya games, Lumi. I don't know how you do all of that without feeling unproductive. I actually had a phase last summer where I refused to play literally anything for about a month because it's such a waste of time. I put in ten or so hours a week at max, now, though DS3 is gonna give that a little jump.

 

Yeah, I agree on the point of memorization. Anything PVE, in most any game, is pretty much just that. I've done minimal pvp in souls games, at friends who have internet's places, and it's like a totally new game, so I'm eager to get good at that.

 

Also need to find some more online games to play with people now that I can, I guess. I don't really know that many people who play vidya irl, and the only couple I do on the internet are autistic weebs, so if anyone around here has any recommendations, or wants to play something, and you don't sound like a Melvin, hit me uuuuppppp

[Luminesce]

Video games are just a part of my life. I did the same thing with TV however, haven't watched it actively in like six years. I watch Youtube, but aside from having adblock so no advertisements I also choose who and what I watch. For games, I dunno, it's just what my friends and I do. I'm also currently enrolled in Utah State University, so.. I have an excuse.. To play games all day.

[Zaya]

I can't believe I didn't mention this in my last post, but I used to play Pathfinder (a variant of dungeons and dragons that goes off of the 3.5D&D rules) religiously with friends. The sheer openness of the rules and ability to make whatever character and story you want seem too good to be true when it comes to Tulpamancy.

Zaya's already expressed an interest in playing it, and said he'd like to try the Dual-weapon fighter subclass. I always run necromancy, it's just too fun.

 

Anybody else try Pathfinder? Or Dungeons and Dragons in general?

[Guest]

DnD booiiiiii

 

Or at least, I used to before all of my irl friends bailed because they're lame. We loosely followed 3.5 rules with a bit of custom stuff, and generally just fucked around more than anything, but it's an absolute blast. I would 100% recommend anybody that's able sit down in a dimly lit room with a couple candles, and tabletop-RP for a bit. I've tried doing it over the internet and Skype since, and it's just not as fun.

 

The dressing-up aspect is also great, even if it's not much. My best campaign put me into the role of a veggie-mancer, a corn-mage specifically, and I'd always wear a robe, and fiddle with a corn-cob pipe that a friend happened to have. Really helps you get into it.

 

Ahh, the memories. I need to find a new group of cool peeps to do that with, eventually.

[Drakaina]

Anybody else try Pathfinder? Or Dungeons and Dragons in general?

I'm a huge tabletop rpg gamer. I tried D&D 3.5 once but the convoluted nature of CC made me hate it pretty quick. I'm playing a 5e campaign with some friends now and my druid is boss. I out tank the paladin and then some. I skipped over 4e because of the general negative reviews and I wasn't willing to pay for any books. :P

I got, like, every Pathfinder book there is in a humble sale earlier this year so hopefully I can try it out with my friends soonish. I already know I'll be needing to tweak some of the mechanics like rules for facing, and traps costing gold (why digging a pit costs money I'll never know), but no game is perfect.

 

Mostly I play homebrew systems though. My husband built one from scratch, and I mean that literally, it's not a reskin of d20 or even WoD mechanics. I help with creative direction. Creature and race design and layout for the rule book(s).

[Guest]

So Dark Souls 3 is infinitely more difficult than I'd anticipated ;-;

 

I struggled with 1, but never really as much as I am here.

 

Pretty aight game, though. Scaling seems a bit steeper than it has been in previous titles, and I feel like it controls more like 1 than 2, despite having some mechanics from 2, which is good. hammering it out with a bud, am about three and a half ours in, and ffffour bosses in? Three? Something. At the cathedral or whatever now.

 

Anyone else got it, yet?

[Zaya]

I'm a huge tabletop rpg gamer. I tried D&D 3.5 once but the convoluted nature of CC made me hate it pretty quick.

 

If by CC you mean Crowd control, that's the fun part if you know the meta.

Certain classes, namely monks, eat cc like candy.

A monk with the right feats, when grappled or prone, can actually get stronger with these status's!

Balor Luchador grapples monk.

Monk hulks it up!

Balor takes 35 knees to the face followed by a shuriuken!

*cue massive applause*