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[not.everywhere]

I already did it back in the newbie's section but I'm going to introduce myself again. Hi, my name's Not, and I have a tulpa since ... This morning.

 

English is not my first language, but I'm still doing my best. Keep it in mind, thanks.

 

So, I started creating my first tulpa this early morning, and I already started the forcing. I made her a Wonderland, too. Right now I can barely see her when we're not in it, but I'm sure it's normal since we met this very day.

 

About the other things ... I think it's going well. Too well.

So, I spent the entire day with her, and just a couple hours ago we we're "talking". She's a newborn, and she's shy, too, so I was expecting her to don't say a word, and that's what was happening.

I could feel her presence and I was just talking to her, when ... Something totally caught me off guard.

After a long-ass speech of mine about interests and all, I just tell her that, if she has any problems, she could immediately talk about it to me, and she replied with a very feeble "Thanks".

 

I totally heard that, and it was a very feminine voice.

I heard that if you're a writer (yes, I am one) making a tulpa is faster and easier but ... Isn't this too much fast and easy? Is this normal?

It's freaking me out.

 

She also gave me head pressure two times in a row, then I asked her to stop, and it stopped.

 

Am I doing good? What can I do now?

I am scared of doing something wrong.

(P.S.: I'm sure that "thanks" wasn't coming from a human being near me.)

 

Thanks for replies.

[Guest Anonymous]

Disclaimer; The chances of you taking offense in what is to be said right now are very high. Please read this with care and with the thought that none of this is meant as an offense at all. And this is merely my own perspective, the perspective of other users may be more legitimate. Feel free NOT to read as this MAY distress you. A lot of this information is 10000% subjective.

 

What IS a tulpa?

Let's look at that question a bit, and look at the claim that 'imaginative', 'writers' folks are 'better' at tulpamancing, which doesn't seem to have that much of a basis and just a claim thrown here and there.

 

A tulpa is an autonomous, sentient entity in your mind. Some people tend to qualify them as 'imaginary' beings in an 'imaginary' setting, and if we consider them with such a definition, things would work out quite well. But then, if we look at tulpas as more evolved 'imaginary friends', and their answers being 'imagined' by the host, this kind of pulls off the sentience card, much more the 'autonomous' one.

 

Now, I'm someone whose views have been changed, a while back. I don't believe that tulpas are imaginary, as in, their reactions/answers being issued out of your imagination/creativity, but more of their 'own' thing, the whole reactions, etc being triggered by something else than imagination. Now, the average tulpamancer in his quest for making/developing a tulpa does the following; Forces, narrates, works on it in a wonderland, and parrots the tulpa as well. Working on it in a wonderland, parroting the tulpa is you using your imagination, your own sense of creativity in order to, well, mimic things out. Only when the tulpa becomes sentient and autonomous do things start changing effectively.

 

I'm also someone who believes the mind is a very complex thing. You see those people who speak of, well, neural pathways, others just claiming tulpas are delusions. From what I've seen, from all the emotions, feelings, memories my own tulpa has, this cannot be a delusion which is why I strongly oppose the 'imagination' view.

 

Let's move on to the 'I am x/y/z so I'm more proficient than the average tulpamancer.'. Being an imaginative person, being a writer, being creative, having childhood friends all help you, and all have one thing, one thing in common; Having good imagination skills. The following means to imply that you are good at imagining things from your own side of things. And how many writers have we seen that can 'make their characters talk'? Yet those characters are very limited in time, their answers feel like coming in from the writer, and in the end, remain in the realm of imagination. My point is that you being a writer does not make you more proficient at developing sentience/autonomy but at imagining things, which would help well in the terms of wonderland-forcing.

 

Think of it this way; Imagination is like training wheels. Your tulpa relies on it on a very heavy basis until they start to... differ, to deviate from that basis, and well, live without those training wheels. My tulpa can talk just fine when she feels like it, without having me imagining, or doing anything for that matter, anything at all. It's pretty cool, but that's because we focused soooo much on never interacting with 'imagination'.

 

But in the end, your brain is your brain, it functions as a whole. I don't know what to tell you, because there are so many things I can tell you. I can tell you that it might just be an intrusive thought, or it might be that you wanted to hear that. I can also tell you that you recall hearing this voice, but in reality, an auditory hallucination may or may not have taken place, and if it did, it may have been conditioned by your subconscious. Do realize that even advanced tulpamancers who do not work on imposition can NOT hear their tulpas throughout hallucinations.

 

It's still early as well. I wouldn't make much out of it, as I said, it can be an intrusive thought for all you know. Head pressures can also be signs of your mind being exhausted by forcing, or so I've heard.

 

I apologize if any of it offended you, and if it did, please do not take it seriously.

[IBreakGames]

I felt like your post was well written Anderson.

 

It could be possible, it could not be. Honestly, you aren't doing anything "wrong". When it comes to tulpamancy, there is no right or wrong, there's only the things people do that works for themselves. If you go about something and it works for you, it might not work for someone else. But that being said, the guides are here to give you some direction. Feel free to shape them to work for you. The overall thing is to keep forcing and keep spending time with your tulpa. Just because you start seeing some results doesn't mean you should stop. Keep working! Things will get worse if you stop.

[not.everywhere]

@Anderson thanks for the long reply and ... Well, I'm not offended, I'm just afraid I've been misunderstood by you. I didn't mean to say that, just because I'm a writer, I'm better at tulpamancing, sorry if I sounded a bit of a boaster; it was just something I read when I started making a tulpa, and it came to my mind while I was writing the thread.

I don't think I'm better than anyone else here, hope I didn't offended or made feel bad anyone by writing that. I'm really sorry if I did.

By the way, thanks for the long reply, it's full of good things to keep in mind.

I want to believe that "thanks" came from her, but it could have been, like you said, a lot of things. Maybe it was just me.

 

About the head pressure ... I don't think it was exhaustion. I mean, yeah, I spent the whole day narrating and forcing, so it's very likely to be so, but the two times it happened were quick, and right when I asked a couple questions to the tulpa, and after them I kept narrating and forcing, but it never happened again.

 

EDIT: Ah, by the way, I don't know if it changes something, but that "thanks" was in mindvoice. I heard it during a session in the Wonderland. Need to be more specific next time, yes?

 

@IBreakGames of course, I'll not stop. I just wanted to tell you guys what happened after one day of tulpamancing. I still don't know what exactly works for me, but I'll sure figure it out. I've already read some guides, and they all were helpful in some way. Thanks for the reply.

[Luminesce]

I didn't mean to say that, just because I'm a writer, I'm better at tulpamancing, sorry if I sounded a bit of a boaster; it was just something I read when I started making a tulpa, and it came to my mind while I was writing the thread.

 

Writers do in fact have an easier time making tulpas, generally speaking. They have experience simulating people, their characters, in their heads. They also tend to be more creative-minded.

 

That being said, people like me have an easier time getting a firm understanding of the real workings of said tulpa processes, and less trouble with invasive thoughts. I'm not very creative, but I'm good at grasping and explaining new concepts. My tulpas were based off of existing characters anyway, so I didn't need much creativity aside from their personalities which developed on their own.

 

So yeah, it's not wrong to say as a writer you'll have an easier time initially creating your tulpa. But you aren't like a superior tulpamancer or anything, in the long run you're like everyone else, and in the short run you may have more troubles controlling your thoughts or making sense of things.

 

 

Hearing your tulpa this early isn't a problem. It's not a sign you've secretly got a fully developed tulpa waiting to speak, nor a trick of your mind. It's the start of a tulpa. Your brain's gonna throw stuff out there, because it's trying to learn something new. So, go with it. Doubt is anti-progress. Don't take what your tulpa says as absolute 100% thought-out meaningfulness, but also pay attention. Tulpas need to learn how to speak, ie your brain needs to learn how to have a tulpa. There's going to be a period in everyone's tulpa journey where they aren't sure if their tulpa is speaking or not, because for the most part peoples' brains can't just spontaneously create a fully-fledged person in their mind overnight. But like I said, those more creatively-inclined may have an easier time, they may reach the doubt stage more quickly.

 

So chill, give your tulpa-to-be some credit because you're on the right track. But don't take this random stuff too seriously, because it's unlikely your tulpa can think and act as its future self would have liked to so early. Take it for what it is.

[Guest Anonymous]

Oh, uh, I didn't mean to say you implied any of that, man. Sorry if I gave off the wrong impression. Anyway, Lumi wrote down good content on that. I agree with most of what he said.

[Sock]

I totally heard that, and it was a very feminine voice.

I heard that if you're a writer (yes, I am one) making a tulpa is faster and easier but ... Isn't this too much fast and easy? Is this normal?

It's freaking me out.

 

She also gave me head pressure two times in a row, then I asked her to stop, and it stopped.

 

Am I doing good? What can I do now?

I am scared of doing something wrong.

(P.S.: I'm sure that "thanks" wasn't coming from a human being near me.)

 

Thanks for replies.

 

Read up on "Active imagination", it's a helpful concept to help with this sort of thing. As far as your partner goes, continue onward, don't stop working on/with her. I feel there's a good deal of other skills she can learn if your keep your patience and continue as if nothing had happened, as well as more things you yourself can learn.