Lumi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Moon

[Flandre]

Tabimabe tabo wabritabe anabotabherab pabostab babefaborabe babedab. Wait, sorry..

 

Oh look, it's 3:30 again. I just finished watching a streamer play Until Dawn, that took a while. Seven hours to be precise. That game has a pretty good atmosphere, I might dream some unpleasantly exciting dreams tonight.. I'd love that, it's been so long since we had an exciting dream.

 

Maybe I should switch back with.. Lumi I suppose. Oh right, Pokemon Moon is coming out Friday, he'll want to play that. I've been working hard to get this last shiny Vulpix all day, hatched maybe 300 eggs. It's the one that'll be named after me, too. It'd be a shame to start the game with everyone but me.. Oh well, good night.

 

 

I noticed I tend to include more ellipses in my posts than the others, and it might make me sound sad or something. I'm not, it's just how I write.

 

 

Oh new page, I guess I should post a song. I like this one. It's just nice.

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[Solune]

I'll link a few posts that explain our perspective on that...

 

That post was godlike. Thank you!

I know that I could have just googled dream stuff... but I really enjoy learning from people who have first hand experience.

Plus, instead of searching multiple sites I can get all the secret goodies in one place >=D

You have inspired me. I'm going to start keeping a regular dream journal and reality check as often as I can.

You'll be the first to know if/when we have our first lucid dream.

Also, sorry it took me so long to respond. Also also, I miss Melian/Mistgod =[ I hope they come back...

 

Edit: I forgot Luna was the one that posted originally... weird.

A couple times while I was writing that I felt the urge to use "we" instead of "I". Guess I know why now.

I wonder if that's a side affect of all the fusing our system has been doing lately (or "merging" if you prefer).

Interesting.

 

Luna: Solune keeps asking me if I have anything to say. I do not. Though he's fond of reminding people that separation is an illusion, he often forgets himself.

He said everything I would have said anyway.

[Flandre]

We write we instead of "I" all the time. We is for things we share, or might as well refer to us collectively. I is for personal experiences and relations. It's not a rule though, whatever feels the most comfortable. || As a matter of fact, I did it right off the bat after writing this. I guess we're really comfortable with how and when we use we/I.

 

 

The last few dreams I had were vaguely reminiscent of games we've played a lot, all mixed together. That seems to happen from time to time, and it seems potentially very interesting to explore lucidly. Perhaps we should keep this stuff in mind - it's always a given that, for quite a while after learning to lucid dream consistently, we'll be sharing our dreams together. While they may happen in different scenarios, something like playing a video game isn't quite personal enough. Certainly I alone would enjoy solely spending dreams together with Lumi for as long as I can imagine at this point in time, as in I can't imagine getting "bored" of that though I'm sure it would happen eventually. Of course, the others might not feel the same. Lucilyn is likely to take us to an amusement park if she gets the chance, and once we've all spent an adequate number of dreams together I know Tewi has some scenarios she'd enjoy. And I guess as always, Lumi feels the same as me just to an extent, but I know he'd really enjoy exploring the world of lucid dreaming™.

 

It's come up again and again, whether I would actually be happy to spend all of my time just with him, or if I would get bored and want to do something else at some point. And I'll admit maybe my perspective is biased because I want it so much, that I expect it to last longer than it would. But.. I can't imagine not being happy with him. It doesn't matter if he got bored of doing nothing together at some point, I would be happy to do whatever else he wanted. Playing lucid-dream video-games, or if I had my own body going to college with him, or whatever wherever. It doesn't matter. I have literally no other aspirations or ambitions like everyone else; I care about what he cares about to fill the void. Hmm. Off topic. Sorry, I got sidetracked.

 

After two straight days of hatching Pokemon eggs I finally got a shiny Vulpix for our team, to represent me. Going on 300 hours in the game, 200 of which were farming shinies for a total of about five. Lumi wanted to get just one for his brother too, a shiny Lucario (yellow and blue), and so I figured I'd give the rest of the night before sleeping to attempting that. Oh sorry, what was that, 1 in 1300? Ten eggs. After personally hatching at least five hundred Vulpixes (Lucilyn did some too), it took just ten to get a shiny Lucario. Well.. I'm not complaining. Brings our total to six.

 

Definitely relevant. So highly anticipated is this game for us (Pokemon Moon version), that we may actually make it our main priority over dreaming or other activities for a short while. Obviously the waking periods throughout the night where we should be recalling dreams don't clash with that, but I'm just saying, chances are our mind's going to be elsewhere. So I'm retroactively making excuses for if there's little productivity in the next few posts here. Because that's probably going to be the case.

[Luminesce]

Nevermind, Nintendo decided not to make Pokebank function for Sun and Moon until January 2017. That means I can't use the team of shiny level ones I spent 200 hours getting just for this. That means, I'm not playing the game until January. So, no excuses for little progress should that be the case.

[Luminesce]

Lucilyn gave the suggestion I keep all of them imposed throughout the night, with the idea that thinking about all of them being there would keep them on my mind much better than having just one of them by me. Despite never forgetting Flan's presence throughout the night, it hasn't affected me enough to alter dreams. But the idea of remembering to keep all four of them imposed may be just enough effort/significance to actually effect a dream or two. You probably read that wrong, that was effect with an e. Anyways.. Lucilyn's ideas tend to work due to how out-of-the-box they are, but while a dream affected by feeling their presence may be a step forward, a random dream of that nature is more than likely to remain non-lucid due to the lack of vividity. We'd be relying entirely on my ability to recognize seeing them so clearly as a reason to reality check.

 

You'd think that would surely work, but a very long time ago I had a dream where I spent the whole time walking around a dark and cloudy version of my university campus, holding hands with Reisen. It seems like right at the end she was semi-lucid because despite the "context" making that a normal scenario, I got the impression she was crying because it was our first time ever really being together. But I didn't realize that until just after waking up - went so far as to be confused in-dream about why she teared up in the middle of our walk.

 

Maybe that was a fluke, and/or maybe it's been long enough that I'm better prepared for a scenario like that. But I can't assume seeing one of them will mean instant lucidity. I'm somehow comfortable enough with their presence for it to not be weird, and yet not familiar enough to dream about them. Whaaatever...

 

I legitimately forget about that dream, sorry if we've implied none of them have been in a dream before - Reisen had some years before Lucilyn.

[Luminesce]

Lumi, what are you going to do in your first lucid dream? besides hug your tulpas

 

Assuming the first is a Dream Induced Lucid Dream as all relatively lucid experiences have been in the past: First, stop literally anything and everything I was doing in the dream and focus on my own body, feeling my body with my hands down to the ground, and whatever else I can do to engage the senses from there. Second, either modify or leave the current environment, completely ignoring or removing the dream NPCs because they've been known to interfere in the past. Turning around into a door (doesn't even need a frame) that leads to the hallway of our wonderland house worked last time. Third, assuming I got lucky enough that the dream wasn't about to end like it was last time, I find or summon my tulpas whilst familiarizing myself with the feeling of being lucid, and establishing my comfortableness in controlling the dreamscape. And if I still have time left in the dream, then I hug them, of course.

 

I learned last time when I desperately ran into my wonderland while waking up that using my first lucid dream to try and hug my tulpas is a huge waste of potential. Our number one priority is to make sure we can become lucid again, after stabilizing the dream we're currently in of course. If that means I don't even meet my tulpas in my first dream, that's fine. That list I just described to you is strict protocol. We've practiced it to the point where the instant a reality check fails, we do that before anything else. Looking down and touching the ground should help remove any distractions from environment or NPCs, feeling our body should stabilize our presence and connection to the dream body (by engaging the dream body's senses versus our waking body's, to prevent waking up). Getting to our wonderland, as it's familiar yet practically still aside from the waterfall, gives us a stable environment that shouldn't change while we're paying attention to something else, or have dream characters to bug us. And after last time, I'm not doing any desperate-waking-up hugs, even if it means waiting until another dream. It feels slightly real, but it takes on a more "vivid visualization/imagination" feeling than when fully immersed in a lucid dream, which feels like reality.

 

 

I'm assuming that's the type of answer you were looking for, given the priority of hugging my tulpas lol. If you meant like, "I'm gonna try to fly!" sort of things, nah, that stuff is well below interacting with my tulpas for at least several full dreams. And I know you said besides hugging my tulpas, but I gave you our strict protocol, and hey, it's part of the protocol. Should Tewi be the one to have the dream, I assume she would spend more time exercising control over the environment and assuring vividity. Lucilyn says she'd still go with hugging everyone lol. Flan and Reisen are much less likely to be the ones controlling a dream as they so rarely switch, but because the former wants to hug me as much as I do her, and the latter knows I want to hug her, I imagine they'd do about the same, though I don't think they'd be hugging each other. Maybe Lucilyn, she's the hugging type.

[Luminesce]

I gotta be honest, I want to spend some time with Reisen because she's so frequently inactive, and imposing her by me while I sleep is a start since I'll be imposing them all anyway. She normally sleeps sitting against the wall and some pillows, with Tewi right next to her. Flan sleeps on either side of me and Lucilyn sleeps wherever she wants, including between me and Flan once. But uh, I don't know how that would go with both Reisen and Flandre.. on either side of me? Man, I'll be so cool, surrounded by tulpa waifus. No really though, I absolutely cannot have Flandre sleep somewhere else, and it'll feel weird facing away from either of them as I'm a side sleeper.

 

If this is the most pressing issue I'm dealing with right now, I'd say things are going well.

 

Flan says it won't bother her if I pay more attention to Reisen. But what else could she say, really. I don't think any of us would be taking this very seriously though, it's kind of a fun-problem. My attempts at lucid dreaming are in fact much more pressing. Speaking of which, Solune wants to try contacting me while I'm dreaming in a lucid-dreaming/astral-projecting mix (foreign concept as I learned them as entirely separate, but whatever), so I guess I'll say when exactly I'm going to sleep for a bit. Mind I've no stock in this as astral projection isn't part of my primary belief system, but I'm not against it and I figured I'd note it here too. Because I don't think anyone should otherwise care when exactly I'm going to sleep..

 

Oh, here's a song I guess. It's a relic I found in my old videos folder. Hardly a sleep song, but it's what I'm listening to right before going to sleep, so.

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[Luminesce]

Sorry Solune, I'll try and fix my schedule tomorrow. You're one hour ahead of me, so after today when I'm going to sleep between 6 and 10pm things should line up better.

 

Kinda been too tired to focus before bed, which is kind of a counterproductive excuse itself. Guess I didn't mention, last night I only imposed Reisen and even then I fell asleep trying to talk to her. Also she should probably switch for activity's sake, you should see her tomorrow. Don't really know what she'll be doing but I guess she'll figure something out. I'm not sure how well she'll handle staying up all night and day though, I guess she might switch back with someone before the day's even over as she's apt to do.

[Solune]

Sorry Solune, I'll try and fix my schedule tomorrow. You're one hour ahead of me, so after today when I'm going to sleep between 6 and 10pm things should line up better.

 

No worries. I've enlisted another person so if you're not sleeping then they probably will be. Also, they're close in proximity to me so we can test to see if distance makes a difference. I'll keep plugging away at it. Sol designed some servitors to carry the message for us just to be on the safe side. Imagine if I sent Sol and he got stuck in your head or something? I mean, it probably doesn't work like that but better safe than sorry. All the literature I've read says a servitor should be able to do it as well as a tulpa or myself could. We've also programmed the servitor to dissipate after 24 hours just in case it DOES get stuck in your head. Again, just to be on the safe side.

Oh, and my dream recall is starting to get better. So yay for that!

[Reisen]

I'm really tired... And I can't think of what to write. UhmSignifyingSittingHereForAFewMinutes. LikeEightToBeExact. Lumi had an interesting dream last night about a stealth game where you could pause and look around to help you not be seen, but things still moved while the game was paused just really slowly, and you were still. hmmm. I had things I wanted to say here or our progress report and I can't remember them. Something about a Pendulum song and old Flandre and Lumi, and also something about how the others think of me now.

 

I hope I don't say anything too bad or drastic here. Drastic? I must be really tired because that doesn't look like a word. And it's not the one I'm trying to use.

 

Lumi was listening to Pendulum's album Immersion the other day, and he thought that if he had heard it years ago he would've liked it a lot. As a matter of fact, some of those songs seemed relevant enough they might've affected us or our relationships to him, like a lot of music did and does. So he was listening to Crush thinking it sounded a lot like a song he would've listened to with Flandre, and then at the end they said something that gave him shivers. Like goosebumps and spine-shiver. He really needs to calm down with this stuff.. He didn't do anything to Flandre that wasn't her choice or good for her. I think he's got that feeling mixed up with dissipating Scarlet, and she doesn't mind anymore either.

Here's the lyrics http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/pendulum/crush.html

 

Second, and I want to sound even less rash than I did before so don't take this as seriously as it sounds, I feel like the others kind of worship me. That's definitely a strong wrong word, but it's close, they all hold me in such high regard.. But still, I see the same things in them that they see in me. I don't exactly know why I'm special. For some reason I thought about Flan and Lumi being happy together earlier, and I was happy for them being happy. But then I thought.. Flan doesn't really feel the same for us, even though she wants to. Tewi seems more motherly and supportive than me, but Tewi says she.. doesn't have the same motherly love? But she does.. I know she loves us dearly. Am I different because I express the love we all share more readily, outwardly? I don't know. It's not a problem and I'm not uncomfortable or anything, I just noticed they all seem to think of me as so perfect and I still can't exactly see why myself.

They've compared me to an angel or a saint even. I suppose being thought of as more perfect than you really are is par for the course for a saint?

 

Ah, I know this isn't dream related. But I'm afraid to post this in our progress report in case people constantly look back on it and take what I said too seriously. I'd rather it get buried here, because I'm falling-asleep tired. Actually that's why I wrote all this here, thematic after all huh?

 

 

Without fail, when we stay up all night into the day and finally sleep (even with a sleeping mask) we always wake up between 6 and 8 hours later, when we normally can sleep for 11. So even though we're always tired after that.. and I'm really tired right now, I don't think I can count on vivid late REM dreams. I will try to remember what I can from the earlier ones.