Jump to content

How does your Tulpa fit in your religion?


Recommended Posts

Every major religion has some form of afterlife (Heaven, Hell, Paradise, Reincarnation, etc.). I'm curious as to how others believe their tulpa fits into their religion specifically regarding the afterlife. I have a few theories of my own, but would like to see what other more experienced individuals think before posting these.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I generally keep them separate, religion and tulpas. I haven't really thought about what would happen to them after the body dies, but I'm assuming we'd merge together or something before carrying on. I'm a "general pagan" with some Wiccan ways and stuff, I don't want to put a label on what I believe in. It's close to Wiccan anyway so...

 

I believe in reincarnation. Like I said before I think we'd merge, so we'd be reincarnated as one being instead of many separate ones. They are a part of me after all, and I think we share the soul.

CM - She/them - 30th April 1997 - Host of the system

Desmond - He/him - 21st April 2014

L - He/him - 5th May 2014

Nevira - She/her - 14th December 2014

Misa - She/her - 5th December 2015

Roska - He/him - 22nd July 2019

Danyla - They/them - 13th July 2020

Progress report  Art thread  Our lounge thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

I believe in reincarnation. Like I said before I think we'd merge, so we'd be reincarnated as one being instead of many separate ones. They are a part of me after all, and I think we share the soul.

 

Thank you for sharing this.

 

One of my theories actually involves being reincarnated together. People born with "multiple personality disorder" could just be a host and tulpa reincarnated together.

 

I personally don't believe in reincarnation. However I won't allow my personal beliefs to dismiss these possibilities.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Doctorfoxwolf

Well, we're all various degrees of nonreligious, so I suppose it's not quite applicable.

It is our belief that tulpas are an entirely psychological phenomenon, and all the other blah blah atheist "There are no souls" whatever.

Doc: Childhood friend turned servitor gone rogue turned host who's bad at feeling emotions.

Meti: Overly lewd Tupper.

CT, who is also called Jeremy: Original personality whose default emotion is anger.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, we're all various degrees of nonreligious, so I suppose it's not quite applicable.

It is our belief that tulpas are an entirely psychological phenomenon, and all the other blah blah atheist "There are no souls" whatever.

 

Hey I just finished reading your "making a tulpa for science".

 

While I understand many aren't religious and in turn don't believe in an afterlife I have found quite a few people on here mention their religions.

 

My reason for making this thread was prompted by a worry that when i die, my tulpa my not exist any longer. I haven't made my tulpa yet and this fear has brought me to a point where I am questioning whether i should or not. To make something i would share such a strong emotional connection with, knowing that in my death it would cease to exist as I continue on, seems wrong.

 

I do appreciate your input and wish you luck on your own journey.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Your tulpa is a process, not a hallucination. They have presence in your mind the same type as your core identity. They can't and won't stop existing until you stop--Or to be more accurate, the manner in which they could cease is the same as the manner in which you could cease.

 

As many believe, your core identity may not survive death. But in such a case, either a tulpa must have their own soul, or shares yours.

 

But think about what a soul is. It is that thing that makes you important. So if a tulpa has no soul, they aren't important. There is key evidence in the way in which you interact with the world, in your core identity, that you have a soul of this type. You feel yourself, you assert your rights. You have faith, and spiritual experiences, you demonstrate compassion and guilt. You demonstrate fear. You can look for these same signs in a tulpa's core identity. If they don't have them, then it does not matter if they don't survive.

 

In Buddhism, Sprul-pa is a word that means spiritual emanation. It is from a family of related ideas. Buddhists believe in the illusion of multiplicity. Everything is actually one. A logical consequence of this is you can actually create other people just by thinking about it exactly the right way and manipulating this illusion. This, it is heavily connected to how reincarnation works. Death is part of the illusion of separation. Time is also part of the illusion of separation. So you can even reincarnate before you die. Singularity is part of the illusion. You can split your essence into two complete people. And depending how you do it, one of them could get a actual brand new physical body. Or the split could be more like your child. Or maybe it is just an aide to computation.

Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.

Link to post
Share on other sites

In Buddhism, Sprul-pa is a word that means spiritual emanation. It is from a family of related ideas. Buddhists believe in the illusion of multiplicity. Everything is actually one. A logical consequence of this is you can actually create other people just by thinking about it exactly the right way and manipulating this illusion. This, it is heavily connected to how reincarnation works. Death is part of the illusion of separation. Time is also part of the illusion of separation. So you can even reincarnate before you die. Singularity is part of the illusion. You can split your essence into two complete people. And depending how you do it, one of them could get a actual brand new physical body. Or the split could be more like your child. Or maybe it is just an aide to computation.

 

Thank you for this. This is very interesting and I will definitely research this more.

 

I had gone over the idea that a tulpa may have a soul separate from the host. I am a Christian, so i have looked to the Bible for answers to this. In Genesis 2:21-22, it talks about how God created Eve from Adam. Now we don't have the same power as God but we are made in his likeness. So while we can not give the "breath of life" we might be able to create things from ourselves in this same manner, but confined to a spiritual/mental level.

 

I apologize if any of this is offensive to anyone. It is not my intent to push any of my ideas or beliefs on others. I simply wish to share my thoughts and hear the thoughts of others on this matter.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think even that much is necessary. I believe the belief goes that God, or some process started by God, implants a soul into a fetus at approximately two weeks, with some variation in belief between branches. This is where the word conception comes from.

 

If this belief is true, then what would happen with tulpas is similar. At some point, the thoughtform would become implanted with a soul, in a similar manner.

 

Alternative belief systems maintain that a soul is not a constant and develops over time. Such systems must necessarily hold that it is at least possible for some people to be born without a soul, but they will end up with one as they go through those life events that cause spiritual growth.

Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think even that much is necessary. I believe the belief goes that God, or some process started by God, implants a soul into a fetus at approximately two weeks, with some variation in belief between branches. This is where the word conception comes from.

 

If this belief is true, then what would happen with tulpas is similar. At some point, the thoughtform would become implanted with a soul, in a similar manner.

 

This makes sense. However, if it was solely God placing the soul in the thought-form, then I would think it would be much easier for the thought form to become independent from the host. I think the act of forcing is somehow strongly connected to this act of "soul implantation".

Link to post
Share on other sites

I personally follow Chaos Magick / Discordian teachings and have some personal beliefs about it. Ivy in my system follows the witchcraft side of things more but personally considers herself to be practicing a form of Chaos Magick too. The other two subscribe to nothing.

 

My personal belief in the afterlife is transferring to a place not unlike here. It may hold different laws and social structures or it may be a lawless wasteland. I have no idea what form I may possess. I believe my tulpa to be separate from me, and believe that they will be separate from me in this new world/realm.

"My lover's got humour,

She's the giggle at a funeral,

Knows everybody's disapproval,

I should've worshipped her sooner."

 

Host to Samuel, RavenIvy, and Olivia.

 

CERCA TROVA

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • Apollo Fire
      By Apollo Fire
      Tulpas: Creation, Sentience, and Vocality
       
      This guide was written to cover the beginning stages of tulpamancy from creation to vocalization in a way that's useful and comprehensible to someone new to the concept, detailing general guidelines, tips, explanations, and other practical information to help someone beginning their tulpa journey.
       
      Google Docs light version: link
      Google Docs dark version: link
       
      File Dropper download link [Broken]
      MediaFire download link [Broken]

      PDF copy: Tulpas Creation, Sentience, and Vocality (Guide).pdf
    • Kiahdaj
      By Kiahdaj
      English Version:
      http://goo.gl/HEfER
       
      French Version:
      http://goo.gl/lZO4jD
       
      Italian Version:
      http://goo.gl/GCZmOX
       
      Russian Version:
      http://goo.gl/wdF4ad
       
      Printer-Friendly Version:
      http://goo.gl/rKAVOR
       
      .epub (for eReaders)
      http://goo.gl/MTQn4N
       
      .mobi (also for eReaders)
      http://goo.gl/3Ma5Gt
       
       
      English Changelog:
       
      July 12th, 2013:
       
      Revised some paragraphs Added "Why Not to Create a tulpa" Added "Emotional Responses" Added "Head Pressure" Added "Creating a Tulpa of an Existing Character, or person" Added "Switching" Added "Forcing Should not be a chore" September 21st, 2013:
      Corrected grammar errors Revised some sections Added "Your Tulpa Should be a Tulpa First, and a Form Second" August 7th, 2016:
      Corrected errors and added slight clarifications throughout August 9th, 2017:
      Pointed link for Oguigi's & Koomer's possession guide to Wayback archive. November 15th, 2020:
      Made it look less disgusting Also removed the table of contents at the top, because apparently Google docs has that built-in now.  
       
      French Changelog:
       
      July 27th, 2013:
       
      Added July 29th, 2013:
      Added permanent link September 8th, 2013:
      Updated (see notes in "French Version:") Changed link November 20th, 2013
      Updated  
       
      Italian Changelog:
       
      August 12th, 2013:
       
      Added August 18th, 2013:
      Changed Link September 12th, 2013:
      Updated  
       
      Russian Changelog:
       
      December 19th, 2013
       
      Added  
       
      French Version:
      dragonclaw has kindly taken much time to translate this entire guide into French. Currently, this version contains all sections that can be found in the original English version, but lacks the revisions done to other sections in the past.
       
      Italian Version:
      This version, translated by the user "dreamy" (you'll always be noobdreamer to me) should currently be up-to-date, besides the most recent English update.
       
      Russian Version:
      This version of the guide was recently translated by the user Leopold, of his own accord. Much thanks to him for the hard work.
       
       
      For all the non-English versions of the guide, note the date of creation in comparison to the latest update of the English version. I will not tell you every time one of the versions is not completely up to date. You can figure that out yourself. If it was not up-to-date when it was posted, I will let you know as I did the French version.
       
      For those of you who want to translate this guide:
      Don't.
      At least not yet. I should have made serious note of this earlier, but I intend to do some major revisions to this guide, such that any translation done now would be severely outdated by the time I'm finished.
      On top of that, there is also a possibility that this guide may be taken down altogether.
       
       
      As always, let me know what you think, and if there are any sections you'd like to see added.
       
      It's worth noting that I still plan to reword/revise some of the paragraphs. I feel like I didn't get my point across as eloquently as possible. But until then, make do with my rough-draft wording.
    • Amadeus
      By Amadeus
      A little while back I was tasked with writing a general overview to tulpae and creation.  The idea was to have an up-to-date general guide that didn't push things like hour counts on new users, talked about different methods, and other such things. 
       
      Took me about a good number of hours in front of a public computer, but I got a draft finished. 
       
      So, here it is.  The Word file I typed up originally, and a .txt for people who the Word file doesn't work for. 
       
      Input would be fantastic.  Constructive criticism is always welcome.
       
      Latest version.
      Tulpa Phenomenon Overview Guide v1.docx
      Tulpa Phenomenon Overview Guide v1.txt
    • madrezaan
      By madrezaan
      For those who understands Russian, there's a guide describing so called "gymnasium student" method of tulpa creation.
       
      Working link: here
       
      The main idea is to treat tulpa as your own student in gymnasium. Then to organize all stuff, she got to learn/practice, in 3 levels: grade, disciplines for each grade and topics for each discipline. The whole tulpa's training process is considering as a "game of school", with tests, exams and score system. It is necessary for the tulpa to pass a test in every topic, and to pass exam in every discipline to make a progress. Introduced score system takes a role of feedback, which allows you to put extra flexibility to estimated hours per each topic and discipline.
       
      Also, an attempt to completely rid off "slaveholder" terminology of "forcing", "host" etc. Instead of that, all process is describing in positive terms of "learning", "teacher" and so on.
       
      Full English translation is possibly to come in future.
    • mmbarrios2004
      By mmbarrios2004
      Sorry if there is already an answer for this.
       
      My tulpa is quite playful and active. But we don't have many ideas on what to do. We tried to play hide and seek and riddles, but it was very easy for both of us since ... well ... we share the same brain. We want to know what we can entertain ourselves with.
×
×
  • Create New...