Perspective of the Wonderland

[Tas]

I have trouble seeing my wonderland in first person, and most of the time see things in third.

 

Does it really matter?

[Kiahdaj]

I have the same problem, and I usually don't notice it until later.

I don't see any real reason it would be a problem--some actually prefer to visualize in third person anyway, and I don't think they would if it were problematic.

So I'm sure it doesn't matter.

[Mr_White]

Not at all, what really matters is how constructive the perspective you take is. If 3rd person is the most comfortable and helpful way for you to force and interact with tulpa, then by all means continue on with that perspective.

[TulpaCouple]

Both have benefits and downfalls. First person tends to be more difficult, but it seems the most realism can be drawn from it(in regards to sensation and immersion in the wonderland) while 3rd person is often easier to focus on, but can lead to being easily distracted, or even going into more of a 'storytelling' mode where you might experience time skipping instead of walking naturally or sort of bluntly forcing your way around the wonderland. I think this all depends on the individual though, some might be unable to get anything done in 3rd person and might need first person to prevent these issues, others might just be so unable to focus on being in first person that they are unable to force without being in third person.

 

I say do what works for you, but don't be afraid to switch it around and see what results you get.

[Chupi]

If you want to stay in first person more, try focusing on experiencing the various other sensations of being in your mind-form: Feel the ground under your feet, any ambient sounds, scents, etc. Also work on proprioception. Move an arm and pay attention to how it feels both to move, and that sense of where your limbs are when they're holding still. Then try to reproduce the feeling in your mind-form, without moving the body.

 

Which view is better is really a personal decision. For me, first person makes it feel more real and involves me in the scene, making it preferable for interacting with tulpas. I like third person for placing items or editing terrain / "god mode" stuff, though I sometimes use first person for this as well and give myself the ability to fly. I've also used third person sometimes for "view only" if I'm not in the wonderland and just want to peer in and see if anything interesting is going on.

[garland]

That's odd, in my case i never visualized anything in third person mode, it was always in first person mode, i even found it weird when i read here that people actually visualize their own body in the visualization, to me that makes it more difficult :) But i guess it's kinda personal for everyone...

[Shui]

This reminds me of a book I read.

 

[Third-person] imagination is good for memory recall, for developing new ideas, for planning projects, and for various types of meditation.

 

...

 

[First-person imagination] is better for actually making improvements in your personality and skills, in your relationships and in your environment, as well as in your health.

 

And in my humble opinion, that's quite nearly everything worthwhile written in that book. His other book, Urban Shaman is much more interesting.

 

But it seems that according to King, I'm doing the wonderland wrong. I use first-person imagination for it. Like everyone else has said, I don't think it makes too much of a difference, and I don't plan on changing.

[Guest EnnervateIndustries]

Chupi's idea is good, I've used it myself. What I also find helpful is to look at your hands from first person, since I'd assume you know what they look like pretty well. Focus on them as if you're holding them out if front of you and sort of "switch" the now out-of-focus background to your wonderland.