Virgil July 8, 2012 July 8, 2012 I came up with a simple hypothesis why narrating aloud may be beneficial. The way I see it is: You hear yourself when talking aloud, so it provides the auditory system with a stimulus and the speech related neural areas and pathways with feedback. The point is that it might give your tulpa something fairly distinct to pick up and follow in all of the tumultuous neural activity. I believe speaking aloud and hearing your own voice elicits stronger response in your brain than your inner speech. What distinguishes this from just listening to people talk is that you are focusing on your tulpa, and the thoughts behind the speech are yours — they originate in your mind, so they should be available to the tulpa as well. Another speculation is that by stimulating the neural pathways that process auditory information and carry it all the way to your mind, eventually interpreting it, the tulpa might identify them and perhaps learn to use this channel and input their own speech into it. Of course, this would all happen on an intuitive level. The desired result should be the ability to produce auditory hallucinations. In other words, the tulpa's voice would appear as real as the hallucinatory voices some hear during hypnagogia. Eventually, the voice would become more substantial. By the way, when you're talking to your tulpa in your mind, I think you should keep your inner voice loud and clear as much as you can unless it takes too much of your attention. I don't want to speculate too much, but what if one of the reasons some people's tulpas develop so slowly and have trouble becoming vocal because this particular kind of stimulus is deficient? All in all, narrating aloud definitely seems like a good idea, but to be sure, you shouldn't use it as a complete substitute for standard forcing. Also, some tulpas seem to like music for similar reasons, I guess, so listening to music with your tulpa could help too to some extent. Well, the tulpa must be sufficiently sentient. Just don't expect any miracles. One more thing: There seem to be a considerable number of people who can perceive their tulpa's thoughts or hear their inner speech, but don't actually hear the auditory hallucinations that normally accompany them — an ability all mature tulpas should have. And it goes without saying that these hallucinations are a sure sign of sentience and a mighty dispeller of all doubts and uncertainty, so it should be a priority to attain such an ability as quickly as possible. Further discussion, comments, and objections will be appreciated. Bayesian inference
Guest July 8, 2012 July 8, 2012 This, I think Abstract is enough to grasp the idea: http://www.citeulike.org/article/10496293 And usually children without siblings are reported to have imaginary friends. And simplistic explanation to self-talk aloud in tulpaforcing. Talking aloud subconsciously recognized as talking to someone, while talking in your mind as talking to self. Hence talking aloud strengthens your belief that you are talking to someone, someone sentient. When you see someone talking with empty air you usually feel some sort of discomfort. Because "talking aloud" means talking to someone. But we clearly see that this person talks with empty air. This contradiction with reality and what we believe in makes us feel strange, because our view of reality crumbles. I read about psychological experiments, when person with much of authority will talk emotionally to empty chair and the audience will hallucinate, seeing something on the chair. I hope this helps.
Guest July 8, 2012 July 8, 2012 This is a very interesting conjecture, and one which seems to be roughly supported by the data we have. My own conjecture is that there are 2 other factors that may matter, one is how good the host's auditory imagination is and another if the tulpa is being addressed, regardless if such addressing is done by the host or another person. If you've followed tulpacouple's progress, you might have noticed that one of them got a tulpa in 20 hours through hypnosis and the hypnotist did narrate to the tulpa. I'd like to see a small study/poll of everyone that has or is working on a tulpa to establish if talking out loud results in auditory hallucinations faster. I've been narrating for quite some time now, but it's almost all in my head, with at most 30 minutes to an hour of out loud narration per day. The tulpa can communicate telepathically and through a variety of other means, but hasn't gained an "external" voice like some others report.
Chupi July 8, 2012 July 8, 2012 From what I've heard from other tulpae, it's easier for them to hear you when you talk aloud. Also talking in my head or very quietly seems to have resulted in my tulpa talking back really quietly, which results in her being nearly inaudible. So now I'm trying to explain that I want her to talk loudly even when I don't, and that I can't because there are people nearby. As for the "hearing yourself" idea, I'm not sure. What you're trying to create is an auditory hallucination, and you get one when you talk in your head. When you talk out loud, you get that same auditory hallucination plus the real hearing stimulus. Either way it still sounds inside your head. But talking aloud sounds much louder, so it'll probably work better at forcing open whatever's blocking the tulpa's voice from being heard. Lyra: human female, ~17 Evan: boy, ~14, was an Eevee Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her My blog :: Time expectations are bad (forcing time targets are good though)
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