Oguigi March 7, 2013 Share March 7, 2013 Very nice guide testing. This site desperately needs effective guides about switching, and yours sets the bar. One more thing, it be nice if you changed "Oguigis" to "Oguigi's". Oguigis make it looks like the "s" is part of the name. pix: Link Diary: http://ponystasha.tumblr.com Koomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testing March 7, 2013 Author Share March 7, 2013 Alright, so... just to make sure we're using the same definition; When you say "consciousness", you refer to your sense of self, the thing that you see and hear and sense out of, your "soul" for lack of a better word. Right? I can transfer my thoughts/mindvoice to the imaginary body, but not my consciousness. That part is still in the body, which is why it's still partially "me", just with a different personality and mindvoice. Now, when you say my consciousness should be in the tulpa body, are you saying that my "soul" is supposed to move into it? That I myself am literally supposed to move into it, seeing and hearing out of it and everything? Because if that's what I'm supposed to do to complete the process, I have no idea how to actually do that. Also, what other methods are you talking about? I've read the guide involving you de-tuning your real world senses until you're no longer in your body, but that sounds ridiculously challenging. Are there any others that would result in a TOTAL switching, with alien movements and everything? Yes. You can however transfer over your consciousness to a tulpabody just fine, and to some extent yes, you do see nad hear out of it, just as you were a tulpa and your body was yours, and your irl body is your tulpas. Think about how you move your body in wonderland, 2 bodies, you control the wonderland body, just do the same thing, you can imagine yourself as the tulpa would see you if that helps. de-tuning isnt necessary, and alien movements can be skipped for this guide can lead you into fully switching in a very direct fashion. The technique has been revised several times and made it as easy and directly targeted as easily explainable. Very nice guide testing. This site desperately needs effective guides about switching, and yours sets the bar. One more thing, it be nice if you changed "Oguigis" to "Oguigi's". Oguigis make it looks like the "s" is part of the name. Thank you kindly :> Han is happy about your compliment as well And right away Oguigi Hanyuu <3 I am sometimes in the /mlp/ boards and #tulpa-forum if you wish to find me :> <: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makogeddon March 7, 2013 Share March 7, 2013 Yes. You can however transfer over your consciousness to a tulpabody just fine, and to some extent yes, you do see nad hear out of it, just as you were a tulpa and your body was yours, and your irl body is your tulpas. Think about how you move your body in wonderland, 2 bodies, you control the wonderland body, just do the same thing, you can imagine yourself as the tulpa would see you if that helps. de-tuning isnt necessary, and alien movements can be skipped for this guide can lead you into fully switching in a very direct fashion. The technique has been revised several times and made it as easy and directly targeted as easily explainable. Ok, so, I guess the only thing I'm still unsure of is... how exactly do I see out of my tulpa body? Do I just have to imagine myself seeing out of it like when I imagine myself first-person in the wonderland, and try to be as vivid as possible? If that's the case, then, well, I dunno. That seems like it would take a lot of brainpower, more so than just puppeting a body that Sarah herself is imagining (and yes, when switched, she's the one that has to focus on my tulpa body existing, i'm just the one who decides where it is and what it does). I don't think I could do that without using so much brainpower that I end up taking over again. ... Oh, right, I never actually thanked you for the guide. Despite the confusion, it's incredibly amazing to be able to switch like this, and I didn't think we'd be able to do it until way further down the line. So, excellent job with the whole dominance switching idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testing March 7, 2013 Author Share March 7, 2013 Ok, so, I guess the only thing I'm still unsure of is... how exactly do I see out of my tulpa body? Do I just have to imagine myself seeing out of it like when I imagine myself first-person in the wonderland, and try to be as vivid as possible? If that's the case, then, well, I dunno. That seems like it would take a lot of brainpower, more so than just puppeting a body that Sarah herself is imagining (and yes, when switched, she's the one that has to focus on my tulpa body existing, i'm just the one who decides where it is and what it does). I don't think I could do that without using so much brainpower that I end up taking over again. ... Oh, right, I never actually thanked you for the guide. Despite the confusion, it's incredibly amazing to be able to switch like this, and I didn't think we'd be able to do it until way further down the line. So, excellent job with the whole dominance switching idea. Put it this way, your tulpa is the host now do they maintain you the same method that you maintain your tulpa normally. Im going to add that to the guide because its a good way to put it now that i thought of it :P To some extent that is true, but you naturally maintain your own existence (as your tulpas do too) so it is not only your tulpa maintaining you, long story short, yes you do see from your tulpabody. You can move around and do whatever you want that a tulpa is able to. What you see as a tulpa should either be what your temp. body should see, or of you are sharing sight, what your real body sees (not recommended at all for beginners). What you see should also not be sent directly which means that the irl body and brain should only see its irl sight, not your tulpasight. That is not seen by the tulpa. This is exactly identical to how the host doesnt see two sights only his own And not a problem, glad we could help :> Hanyuu <3 I am sometimes in the /mlp/ boards and #tulpa-forum if you wish to find me :> <: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg March 7, 2013 Share March 7, 2013 Having their voice louder than yours and if you have your mindvoices in the front and back of your head, switching them gives them dominance believe it or not. Its simply strengthening the tulpaes ties to the body and weakening yours I never said it wouldn't work I just said it's incredibly hard so its essentially a guide for doing something hard that requires knowledge of something thats really hard therefore it doesn't really help unless you are talented (the other steps seem really easy for most people though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testing March 7, 2013 Author Share March 7, 2013 I never said it wouldn't work I just said it's incredibly hard so its essentially a guide for doing something hard that requires knowledge of something thats really hard therefore it doesn't really help unless you are talented (the other steps seem really easy for most people though) Tbh its not hard for many people i have spoken to :P First, tell me what you feel when you try to switch your dominance, have you had the feeling of your voice being at the front of your head and your tulpas at the back, have you had anything like that? It should be very easy to fix, things like this :> Hanyuu <3 I am sometimes in the /mlp/ boards and #tulpa-forum if you wish to find me :> <: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamCloud March 7, 2013 Share March 7, 2013 Is it no more than just daydreaming while fullbody possessed? In that case, that's not really switching; you're still cemented to real body's senses and just ignoring them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makogeddon March 7, 2013 Share March 7, 2013 Put it this way, your tulpa is the host now do they maintain you the same method that you maintain your tulpa normally. Im going to add that to the guide because its a good way to put it now that i thought of it :P To some extent that is true, but you naturally maintain your own existence (as your tulpas do too) so it is not only your tulpa maintaining you, long story short, yes you do see from your tulpabody. You can move around and do whatever you want that a tulpa is able to. What you see as a tulpa should either be what your temp. body should see, or of you are sharing sight, what your real body sees (not recommended at all for beginners). What you see should also not be sent directly which means that the irl body and brain should only see its irl sight, not your tulpasight. That is not seen by the tulpa. This is exactly identical to how the host doesnt see two sights only his own And not a problem, glad we could help :> Ok, ok... so. My consciousness goes into the tulpa body, and I myself am supposed to see out of it, like that science experiment they did where they made test subjects believe they were on the other side of the room from where their actual bodies were? Sorry if I keep asking the same questions over and over again, but you haven't really told me how to actually accomplish that if that's what we're talking about. I can put my personality and mindvoice into it just fine, but I have no idea how to transfer my actual self into the tulpa body. The most I could do would be to imagine myself seeing out of it, but that still doesn't put me into it; even if my mind's eye is seeing out of it, my ACTUAL vision is still coming from the physical body's eyes. Also, what do you mean sharing sight isn't recommended for beginners? That's what we've been doing this entire time, because I don't know how to see out of my temporary body. Is it no more than just daydreaming while fullbody possessed? In that case, that's not really switching; you're still cemented to real body's senses and just ignoring them. Yeah, this is what it's like for me. Still cemented to the real body. It doesn't feel like I'm being pushed out while someone else is being pushed in, it just feels like my personality is being altered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sands March 7, 2013 Share March 7, 2013 While ignoring your senses will eventually lead into sort of getting "disconnected" with the body and you will be able to achieve a switch, this guide just has so much mumbo jumbo I don't see necessary. I guess everyone got their own methods, but there's nothing really that special when it comes to switching. Just get possession down very well and once you're comfortable enough, you'll be able to move your senses from the physical body to an imaginary one. You'll probably first learn to block them which might lead into funky things if you're getting caught with your pants down so to say. I guess I could repost my MS Paint image based on my experiences and how I see the whole switching thing. Not a guide and not helpful, but a way to put my words into an image or something. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testing March 7, 2013 Author Share March 7, 2013 Is it no more than just daydreaming while fullbody possessed? In that case, that's not really switching; you're still cemented to real body's senses and just ignoring them. Its really not Its the same process as possession in a sense in what happens by the tulpa, but its far more direct because your tulpa controls the tulpa as if it were their own. You dont need to desensitize your senses, but only transfer consciousness and thoughts into a temporary body until you wish to unswitch or until it unswitches by itself without doing it You cant feel anything with your body and you arent cemented really because of putting your consciousness in a temporary body, seperating yourself from your body until further notice. You feel what your wonderland body would feel as well just as a tulpa would feel em. Hanyuu <3 I am sometimes in the /mlp/ boards and #tulpa-forum if you wish to find me :> <: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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