tulpas not knowing what to say?

[Hornets]

ok, this is a little odd but I'm sure many of you have experienced this before.

while i'm chatting with a friend and proxying my tulpas, a lot of the time when they are asked questions they'll respond with something like "I don't know" or my head starts to feel almost... cramped up. like my brain can't think. and I translate this as to THEY'RE trying to think but they just can't.

so, out of curiosity, those who have experienced this before, how do you deal with it and how did you find a way around it? i really do want to know.

[Chupi]

Happens to me sometimes. It seems to happen more if the tulpa is trying to respond to a situation they aren't familiar with. It feels like they just respond on auto to a lot of things, resulting in occasional out-of-place replies that when questioned get something like "oops, I wasn't thinking".

 

Sometimes when presented with something they don't know how to respond to, they just kind of freeze up. If I ask them about their lack of response, they say they don't know what to do/say. Usually I just talk them through it a little and they get it. I don't know if that's ultimately helping them or encouraging less fresh thinking.

 

A couple ideas that come to mind, but I haven't tried yet: Come up with some sorts of situations that will make them think a bit outside what they're used to. Note that if it's the sort of thing where you'd know a 'correct' solution when making it, you either need good thought hiding, or another person to make them up for you. I used to have a list of 100 questions you could ask your tulpa and help them to learn to think of answers to, things like favorite food or movie, what you do when your host is away, what annoys you, etc. It's a similar idea to the above stuff -- getting the tulpa used to thinking in different ways that just feel natural to you and me.

[Nobillis]

Yep, happens to me occasionally still. I'll get all confused and silly. Fortunately, I always have one of the Watchdog [tulpas] supporting me. So if I get in "too deep", I get help from a Watchdog. Since they're all over 20 years old [elapsed] there's few thing they can't handle. That's why I rarely say "I don't know" - I shamelessly cheat. *Grin*

 

If things get too deep for even the Watchdogs, then we wake kerin up and say "help!" She's been human so long that I can't think of anything much she doesn't handle.

 

I suppose I could ask Kevin (the original human in our team) - but, he's kind of deaf to us (except the Watchdogs).

 

So there you have it - one of the weirder ways around the problem.

[Quilten]

This used to happen to us A LOT, but more recently it's been getting better and better. I think that it mostly relies on the fact that tulpae don't necessarily know how to respond to questions or statements that would seem ordinary to anyone else.

 

We're conditioned to respond to these things automatically, but tulpae need to be taught, either directly or through experience, how to respond to these questions.

[Quadraginta]

Something similar on my end.

 

I am convinced Raid is vocal, and yet, I still get parrotnoia. I hear one thing, which sounds like her, then another thing, which is insulting, and not her, but due to these two things sounding so identical, my head gets all discombobulated, and then......

 

Poof. I groan in irritation (mentally, of course) and then put off vocality for a while before coming back to it.

[TulpaCouple]

I think things like that are honestly sort of good. Sometimes a young tulpa might rely on your knowledge and your opinions early on, but when faced with a direct question or an unfamiliar situation, they have to form their own opinion or answer and that's a very different process than pulling out an answer already set up. Little challenges and active thinking help in the long run, but they can definitely be frustrating early on.

 

They might also just be having difficulty expressing their thoughts. We all have this, and it results in "Uhhhh"! Maybe ask them to give you a 'feeling' of what they are saying through an emotional reaction of sorts--You know, that direct thought method of communication.

 

You can try helping by asking the question a different way or asking your tulpa why they are 'stuck' on it.

[Bacn]

Something similar on my end.

 

I am convinced Raid is vocal, and yet, I still get parrotnoia. I hear one thing, which sounds like her, then another thing, which is insulting, and not her, but due to these two things sounding so identical, my head gets all discombobulated, and then......

 

Poof. I groan in irritation (mentally, of course) and then put off vocality for a while before coming back to it.

 

I feel your pain. It's a major issue I have as well. Some times it feels like whenever my tulpa says something in my mindvoice it's immediately followed by an identical mindvoice saying the opposite.

 

I'd assume it's just intrusive thoughts, but I've yet to find some one clearly define 'intrusive thoughts'. Also never heard anyone mention getting past this issue, although I've seen a few people suffering from it.

[Cacao]

I've had similar experiences as well. Sometimes, when talking of new subjects, especially tulpa related ones, I find that both me and Cassie get "stuck." One of us will be mid-sentence, and just completely lose our train of thought. Its as if during the back and forth the mind gets bogged down and resets, losing the conversation's working memory. This mostly happens to Cassie, but when it happens to her, I usually lose my train of thought as well. It started with Cassie just saying things like, "sorry, I forgot what I was saying," or, "whoops, was that me?"

 

My current theory is that we both draw from the same part of the mind during intense conversation and when we both are using it too extensively, it just says, "nope," and shuts down for a split second. This "nope response" has a number of manifestations, such as when I hear contradictory responses simultaneously and we both get confused, as well as the acute forgetfulness. I have noticed, although it could be placebo, that when I've eaten healthy "brain foods" our mental stamina is increased and this "nope" event happens much less often. I also notice that Cassie's voice sounds much less like mine (what we call the translator response.)