Layering Realities

[Marethyu]

Hey guys. I was wondering about something: Let's say I'm really good at Visualisation and Imposition, would it then be possible to expand my reality? I don't really know how to explain... maybe like this: I'd recreate my dorm in my wonderland. Perfectly accurate, details and all. At night, my dorm in real life would be completely dark, I couldn't see a thing. Or I'd just close my eyes. Now, could I just use the copy of my dorm in my wonderland? I'd walk around in my wonderland while I also move in real life. And if I'd have forced objects, for example juggling balls, could I impose them on reality? I hope my question was clear enough, and I'm also pretty sure the second part was asked already, but still, it somehow correlates with my first question.

Thanks for all answers,

Maru.

[Linkzelda]

Whenever I did image streaming sessions last year or so, it was pretty easy to have my mind conjure up a virtual experiential reality of areas in this reality. Now, when I go for longer hours, it’s literally just there at my beck and call because I fixated on doing the process of image streaming so much to where it became an industrialized process to me. I would presume, in theory, that if you’re engaging yourself in activities to have your mind make connections to things to refer to, and being able to have some mental capacity to be able to be aware of it, and even have imaginary senses to experience it all, then it would be probable.

 

At least that’s how I felt when I forced when it came to my imagination, and it steadily became easier to have a sort of veneer, i.e., a thin coating imposed in this spatiotemporal reality. But I don’t think it would be safe to presume that said imposition is altering this reality obviously because that may imply some form of subjectivism (e.g. solipsism, panpsychsism); its portrayal would be mostly contingent on one’s qualia, or subjective experience.

 

So if you’re wondering if you can refer to this reality, and have your imagination creating a canvas where it’s referred to mentally, and then go back and forth like nobody’s business, I would throw at you with the theory that you would probably just have to mentally visualize the dickens out with your imagination. And if you want to simultaneously imagine yourself while you’re aware of your existence in this reality, that would probably imply you having some visual foundation that can be referred to the point where it’s seemingly, or really instant.

 

And even though I can’t just hand over my qualia/subjective experience over to you to see if you can do a comparative analysis on, I’ve been able to do the same thing you’re querying on. In fact, I do it frequently during my personal working life, and it’s helped me do recaps and all fairly easily to where I just need to jot down a few pointers that I would trust that I could refer to quickly. And from my experience, it was based on how much I wanted to further that intensity to force my brain to make those connections to where that seemingly instant referring to one’s imagination can be probable.

 

But this doesn’t have to be wholly contingent on long and continuous stream of thought and referring to what’s being experienced; it could also be contingent on that gradual accumulation of the totality of variances of forcing, visualization, and such that one probably has at their beck and call to refer to, albeit the individual may not be able to be aware that they have something like that all along because finding out if you're competent enough to do this things is just a personal thing.

 

IMO, I don’t really revel too much of wanting to live a virtual experiential reality where I’m also experiencing it here. It seems to be double work, and I would presume one would wonder which mode of awareness should they appreciate; the imaginary one, or the spatio-temporal one? But if it’s something in relation to your tulpa, I would presume that would be a useful virtual experiential reality for them to experience something despite the experience itself not being as real as experiencing in this one, if that makes any sense. It almost raises the question on whether or not doing possession, or even switching to presumably give a tulpa that feeling of experiencing qualia in this reality instead of their experiences being contingent in an imaginary one.

 

But with that said, if you could replicate what’s going on in this reality, it could be a useful experiential learning tool for switching. In other words, referring to yourself in the imaginary perspective of reality to where you shifted most of your awareness to, and had a tulpa to refer to this reality would in theory, fit the concept of switching (someone correct me if I’m wrong in this).

 

That’s what I’ve been attempting these past few years, and it’s becoming easier to get a grasp of long-term switching because of the long term sessions I’ve done. Sometimes I never seem to really be tired, and when I do get rest, it feels quite long; almost as if I’m milking as much of the sleep as I can, which makes naps feel like I took a vacation for a week for some reason. Whatever the case, that constant stream of thought and referring to my imagination is just overwhelming at times to where if I think about their existence in some way, they're there. And it's even more frightening of how calm I am when experiencing that constant referring to my imagination if I choose to be aware of it, and their existence within my private, and subjective experience.

 

But I always remind myself that it's fun; it sometimes makes me want to forget sleep because of the potential behind it all because it satisfies mine, and their own personal endeavors of wanting to have that in the first place, i.e., -insert philosophical evaluation here-.

[sushi]

This was something I was very interested when I first found this community. I wanted to be able to impose a rearview mirror, and to see in the dark through imposition, and stuff like that. When I realized how difficult imposition was for me, I decided to stick with imposing Fenchurch first, and then moving into more advanced stuff.

 

But I've written a bit about this in this post and included links to all of the sources I can find.

[Marethyu]

Thanks a lot guys!

@sushi

Yeah, I think I even read that article once, and it is what I was searching for to some extend^^

[Luminesce]

That concept sounded amazing for like ten seconds, before I realized I can already move around my house in the dark based on indirect memory and do so all the time. I can't quite think of a time when imposition would be able to do something your instinctive memory couldn't.

 

Now that also reminded me of, say, wonderlanding at a different time of day than that real life place is at the time, which sounds cool. But again, I control the time/weather of my wonderland at will already, so.. I give you full credit for a really interesting concept, but I can't think of a time it'd be useful. I can walk around my house with my eyes closed pretty well. (Also, I feel like space/dimensions are warped a bit in your visualization compared to real life, so a bit of fumbling would still be required anyway, effectively eliminating most real benefit it could have)

[Marethyu]

@Reisen

Ok, that's impressive. I honestly can't do that. About once a week I almost manage to break something in my room because I trip over something in the dark. (Sometimes even my own feet.) I once did a two week experiment where I wore a blindfold all the time and don't remember exactly how often I almost broke my neck (there is a flight of stairs next to my room), but it definetely was quite the experience. Long story short, it could be useful for people who don't have that good of an indirect memory. And to the last part, that's why I assumed that imposition skills on a high level would be required.

[sushi]

I can't quite think of a time when imposition would be able to do something your instinctive memory couldn't.

Of course there are other fun things you can do with imposition, like this.

[Luminesce]

Well. One, I meant imposition in the context in this thread, as in imagining your room or an area in real life while you're actually in it.

 

Two, HOLY VIRTUAL REALITY BATMAN akjgfoidjgrkvmcxz. (Thanks for linking that)