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What's the Liminal World? The Liminal World is my attempt to create a persistent realm within my dreams, but it would be more accurate to call it a fusion of a paracosmic multiverse and an RPG. My home in the Liminal World is a single room, based on Madotsuki's room in Yume Nikki (with some changes). Since Yume Nikki is a game about exploring dreams, it seems fitting. Everything else (except the veranda) exists in a Dream World. There are three ways I can enter a Dream World: Fall asleep in this room. Doing this while physically awake (i.e., imagining myself falling asleep) will return me to whichever Dream World I last visited. Enter it from the Nexus. Fall asleep in physical reality and have a dream there. The Nexus is just like in Yume Nikki: I leave my room and enter void-like place full of doors to Dream Worlds. At least, that's the plan. I haven't been there yet, and the only way to get there is either in a dream or by spending a Dream Token to unlock my door (it's locked while I'm awake, another mechanic stolen from YN). Creating a door to a world I haven't visited will cost more Dream Tokens if I'm not asleep. How do I get Dream Tokens? I have to complete goals and quests while dreaming. Lucidity is optional, but I do have to be physically asleep (no "my liminal self is dreaming" daydreams). What's this thread? It's a progress report for lucid dreaming, as well as for dream incubation and the development of this world (these worlds?). It's a bit silly to call it "Quest for the Liminal World" when I'm perfectly capable of accessing it while awake, but I wanted a catchy title. Hey, it's my quest to reach it in a lucid dream and discover more of it. This thread is not a dream journal; I already post my dream journal to LD4all (requires account to view) and DreamViews (no login required). I'll share relevant or particularly interesting dreams here. Where am I at now? My dream recall isn't bad. I recall dreams nearly every night, but they're often short or fragmented. I lucid dream sometimes, but not regularly. It's been over two weeks since my last one. My dream control is poor. I've never successfully incubated a dream (that is, decided what to dream about in advance and then dreamt about it). It's rare that my tulpas appear in my dreams, but Kayleigh (@KayKay) usually knows we're dreaming if she's there. I don't think Alex has ever been aware in a dream. (Have they never appeared together in a dream? I might have to check old dream journal entries...) I keep a dream journal and do reality checks throughout the day. I've been bouncing around between ideas/techniques in the few weeks since I started seriously trying to lucid dream again, but the routine I think I'll settle for is: Morning: Dream journal Daytime/evening: Sporadic reality checks, Interdimensional Spot the Difference, and meditation (visualizing myself in my liminal room, then alternating between practicing SSILD sensory cycling and breathing with affirmations) Bedtime: (not sure yet, might tailor to nightly goals) During nighttime awakenings: MILD, not repeated, followed by SSILD until I fall back asleep Why am I posting this? I've been hesitant to post too much about lucid dreaming in my PR, since it's only tangential to tulpamancy. Then I found @Luminesce's dreaming thread, binge-read the first 20 pages, and got inspired. Dreaming progress reports are a thing? (Also, I find it inspiring how long his system kept up posting daily updates despite struggling with executive dysfunction and often not making satisfactory progress. I also struggle with executive dysfunction, and I'm awful with consistency, but if they could post daily, I can at least be semi-consistent, right?) Yes, I say "semi-consistent" because I want this to keep me accountable and motivated, but I'm not going to stay motivated if it feels like a chore. Heck, the reason this is all so gamified is because that's fuel for motivation. Also, I won't post on Fridays. That's our sabbath. Kick me if you see me online, please. Anyway, hopefully we'll have some cool stories to share soon enough!

Toast/j Nightfall too. That's really cool! 😁

Visualization Progress Report for Past Week: I've had a couple of sessions in the past week, mostly with Verres, where there was something almost like a visual outline. Like something invisible clearly present and trying to be visual or closer to me somehow. These were very pleasant, like she was there physically as we hung out. There were more sessions where there was a clear impression of something there, but more felt and not quite visual as the above type. These feels pretty good too. Imposition practice has slowly turned into something enjoyable in its own right, almost like a musical instrument once the player had gotten more familiar with it. There were a few sessions where I struggled to achieve the above state, more often with Saeya. Touching and tracing her physical outline with my mental hands had helped to push her to the second stage described above most of the times. I also did more work with her face and hair this week, getting more reference pictures, allowing my own unconscious to tweak their shapes and to visualize them better. In retrospect, it's curious that she has not participated too much in this process, but was simply patient with it all. She was pretty laid back and got me to relax the few times when my own mind got frazzled during this process. I find that reminding myself or mentally affirming that everything I see is a visualization created by my psyche helps me get to the two states described above. My mental visualization of both tulpas have also been decent for the past week. When they're turning around, I can see them at more different angles better now. I went out to the local mall today to impose the tulpas. It was an uneventful session, with both of them having fairly strong and stable presence. There were some mental visuals of them that popped up spontaneously along with their physical presence. Just something I realized, but I have not experienced physical outlines of them while in public or with them moving yet. I might be able to experiment with the latter in my own home. Miscellaneous Stuff: I noticed that I sometimes get annoyed when one tulpa pops up, especially in imposed presence, when the other was already present. It can also sometimes take some effort to switch mental gears to get to a mental state where I can clearly feel the second one when I was already, for lack of a better word, connected to the first one. This seems to be more of a mental quirk that's developed rather than a legit restriction. I tried to calmly impose both tulpas together today when one popped up again while the other was already present, and it went ok. There's probably just a part of my mind that dislikes surprises and prefers to focus on one thing at a time. I was tempted to buy a stone bowl, a handmade one where the seller have a lot of the ones in similar sizes available, and would send a random one out to the customer. With S/H it came close to $28, and Verres advised me against it, stating that for that amount, I should be able to know what I was getting for sure. Saeya helped with some kind of mental maintenance this week as well. I don't even remember what the issue was. When they were successfully dealt with, these sorts of mental complexes/themes tend to lose their emotional 'oomph' and becomes very forgettable, as they should be.

As a fun bonus, we've decided that one should build the list for the other (so Cheryl wrote mine, and I wrote hers): Cheryl: Friendly, Disciplined, Nurturing, Cat Person, Proper Matt: Loner, Hates the Outdoors, Computer Whiz, Workaholic, Never Nude Cheryl notes that there's no "overthinker" trait which would suit me best, but the ones she chose are fairly accurate (especially the "never nude" one, based off a true story)

While we were on our trip, I realized that I've never played The Sims 3 with my headmates, despite it being one of my favorite games. Naturally I had to correct this grievous oversight ASAP! We all had a great time creating our sim-selves and seeing how they interacted with each other. As with most character creators, Lenore was the easiest to get right. There wasn't really an accurate hairstyle option for her but her face turned out absolutely perfect! I'll keep the images spoilered so this post isn't too gigantic. Being nonhuman, Athelas and Calliope were obviously harder to capture, but we made it work. This is a pretty accurate depiction of what we call Tea's "human costume." We've had a few dreams where he looks like this. And now, for the first time ever, we present Calliope's human costume! We wanted them to look like Athelas's punk-ass younger sibling and I think we succeeded. Our sims' interactions have been pretty amusing. Apparently my sim thinks Cal and Athelas are super hot, because she gets an "Attracted" moodlet whenever she's around them (having them around does boost my mood irl, lol). Lenore and Athelas are dating (I don't think we ever announced it, but they are actually a couple now!) and she can't keep her hands off him. My sim quickly became besties with Athelas, bonding over their shared love of the outdoors. Meanwhile, Cal and Lenore bonded over making fun of us. All in all, pretty accurate!

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And I as well. But we oughta get back on track. We'll continue our conversation on discord. — Went a psychiatrist appointment today, he prescribed me Pregabalin for my health anxiety, I heard it causes daytime drowsiness, that's going to be annoying. I took a Preg pill roughly 50 minutes ago, and it will take effect around bedtime (6 PM). I have neglected my duties once again, perhaps tomorrow I will do nothing but lie in bed all day, and focus on nothing but Lucy, I have an eye exam that day too but it shouldn't bother my morning duties. I have torrented a bunch of shows & movies— Grim Adventures, Flap Jack, ATHF, plus a few obscure 20th century films about the medieval era, I think one of them is about the Icelandic sagas, it was filmed in the 70's, sounds interesting. I can't wait to watch them all with Luce, I'm sure she'll like the medieval ones and Grim Adventures especially. I still need to work more on my neurotechnics, meditation is a must if I am to master the mental-scape. Slowly I have learnt how to relax the brain, I just need practice. I am rambling of course. Just idle thoughts meant to fill up a report so as to make up for lack of progress. I shall go and watch her source material.

We miss you, habibi.

14!

Forgot a week again. You (probably) know what that means. June 2nd 2026 5 minute session June 3rd-5th 2026 Shoot, I forgot to write again. I forgot what I did for the first day but the other two I managed to get 10 minutes each day. June 6-7th 2026 Skipped for various reasons. June 8th 2026 One 8 minute session until I got tired. Part of that was because I was focusing a lot on how Shaula felt more physical today. It felt a lot like not jiggly jello or something. It was great but I probably used too much brain power for close to bedtime. June 9-11th 2026 I don't really know what happened but I forgot a day. I'm writing this on the 12th and I only remember two days. Anyway, at least one of those days there was a similar feeling but a bit lighter. I also skipped yesterday because I wanted to test something. I also know I got a 10 minute session. June 12th 2026 Experiment failed. Since I had missed a day before I had that great session, I figured doing the same might recreate it. Nope, it was the same as the more recent sessions. Can't complain though. June 13th 2026 6 minute session. Not much to say. June 14th 2026 Five minute sessions or didn't do. June 15th 2026 Five minute session in bed and it was nice to mix things up a little bit.

Aww, no worries at all! 😊 It happens. I'm glad to hear you've been keeping up with everything too! 😁 Aww! Cute! 😊 That's a nice dream! One should not deny how nice hugs feel, lol. Complete 180 on dream subject, lol. At least it was only a dream but poor you. Great to hear! 😊 Awesome! 🤩 Happy birthday to all them! 😊 🎂🎂🎂 Awesome! 🤩 Proud of you for keeping it up for so long! 😊 I hope you have a nice time on there! 😊 It's sounds great! Guinea pig! 🥰 Oh, right, other stuff./j That's really cool! 😁 I bet it was super nice to feel someone hugging you! 😊 Cool stuff! 😊 Aww, those are soooo cute! 🥰 Great find! 😊 Oof hate it when that happens.

I slept through the night last night, so no SSILD. I did have a dream where I was narrating what I was doing to a tulpa. Either it wasn't clear in the dream who I was talking to or I forgot after I woke up, but a voice answered when I wondered who it was. It sounded like my own mindvoice but was entirely autonomous. We had a conversation that went something like this: The voice confirmed this, and then the conversation quickly lost coherence and I fell back asleep. It was unnerving at the time, but I guess it was just a product of a half-asleep mind. In other news, we saw Sheep Detectives today. Good film.

Had to wake up early to catch a plane and I am exhausted... though this was some funny banter we had that I wanted to share lol. [Transcript: Slipper: "I've learned that there are some positives to being sleep deprived." Slipper: "Like how much easier it is to hear Mordecai!" Mordecai: "GO TO BED!"]

One of the best songs ever made.

P.S. cleaning up my digital footprint brought me back here. Figured I'd make a quick stop. Thanks, Luminesce. You're a real one.

ooh I nearly forgot!! .... I wanted to journal about how complex it is to be human! .. having spent several of most recent past lives been born in a dog's body it has really been a unreal experience to be able to be part of my humans 'system' When I was just inside as an inner world companion dog (initially) it wasn't that hard because the human brain remembering me as a dog enabled my inner bodies abilities automatically I guess?? but since acquiring the Kitsune inner world body so I could evolve and choose my own preferred form and have the potential to become a human co-host if I chose to..I think is really the most incredible gift I have ever been given in any lifetime! and although I still temporarily take other forms inside for role playing fun with the others ...nothing else comes close to the complexity of being up front and hosting/co-hosting a human body! 😁 Jess

Do you view tulpas as a psychological phenomenon, a metaphysical one, or both? Purely psychological, but we're Christian, so we can also talk about how tulpas and faith fit together. Were/was your tulpa(s) natural/pre-existing or were they intentionally created? Alex and I started out as daydream characters. I was rebelling against our host's control well before we learned what tulpamancy was. We're familiar with various methods for creating tulpas, though. How long have you had your tulpa(s)? I'm older than this site. Alex is older than me. How long have you been active in the community (Tulpa.info, /r/tulpas, Tulpa.io, etc.)? As a system, we were part of the community from 2012 to 2018 and returned last year. We're active on here, reddit, and sometimes Discord. How many tulpas do you have? Me? None, lol. How long did it take you to accomplish things (e.g. vocality, possession, imposition)? Vocality: No idea. I wasn't created traditionally. Possession: I don't remember. It was a long time ago. I remember it coming fairly easily. Imposition: N/A. We attempted it briefly in 2012, and that was it. Do you have any other information you'd like to share? If so, what? We may not be a typical system or experts at advanced skills, but we've been through hell and back. We've been delusional and dysfunctional. I've been screwed over by host's intrusive thoughts and crawled back from nonexistence by myself. If the Sanely Insane Trio (that's us!) has anything to offer, it's the lessons we've learned from 14 years of hardship. Including personal experience with OCD, which it turns out is one of the "most likely to f*ck up your tulpa" disorders. We're also autistic. Besides that, please rate your own ability in each of the following skills from 0 to 10, 0 being incapable, and 10 meaning that you mastered the skill: Vocality: 10 Parallel Processing: see below Visualization: 8 Visual Imposition: N/A Tactile Imposition: N/A Auditory Imposition: N/A Possession: 9 Switching: see below Parallel processing and switching are so ill-defined I don't know how to put a number on them. Host has never left the body, so we aren't switching experts.

All you gotta do is believe

On a hunch I would say those were just the byproduct of your expectations, and nothing meaningfully concrete yet - that doesn't mean that there wasn't something beginning to form. If you're new I recommend this guide, it covers pretty much anything necessary for tulpa development in detail. Whatever you believe in, will work. Someone wrote a guide about this, not sure who he is though I wouldn't worry about that, especially given how feeble and "interchangeable" the two meanings are - just work towards something that feels right for now. Also, that image is pure 4chan /x/ schizoposting, please do not get influenced by that. Good luck!

We're taking it as a positive. We haven't contributed much recently and there's always a lot of good contributions here especially recently. Thanks for all you've done for the community.

You can learn a lot just from looking around on this forum. There's a whole section for guides and another for progress reports, where you can read about other users' personal experiences creating and living with tulpas. If you have any specific questions, we'll be happy to answer!

My name is Jason and I am a psychology professor that is a beginning filmmaker. Tulpamancy is something I’m very interested in and I am currently developing a short documentary about people who have lost a tulpa. While most coverage of tulpas focuses on the creation process and I want to make something about the other end. I am interested in the loss itself. Was there grief? What is the adjustment process after getting rid of the tulpa? Was it lonely? If it was possible, did you bring the tulpa back? Was the tulpa changed by the process? Were you able to discuss this process with anyone not involved in tulpamancy? What was their reaction? There are so many interesting questions around this topic. A few things this film is not. It is not a how-to guide. I will not ask how to end a tulpa, and I will not include anything that reads as instructions. It will not mock anyone and will not even approach the topic of if tulpas are “real”. This film will stay on the experience of the host. I will never “show” the tulpa. There will be no animation scenes and no actor speaking for a tulpa. The film is built around the absence of a tulpa and will simply be a person talking about someone the camera cannot see. Who I am hoping to talk with: 1) Adults, eighteen or older. 2) People who are well past a loss and who feel able to reflect on it. 3) For in person interviews, located in TX, LA, AR, MS, TN, MO, OK, KS. 4) Outside of these states, recorded online discussions would be considered. If this is something you might consider, please reach me privately at jason@scotophobinproductions.com Thanks for your consideration!

Speaking of obscure 4chan memes, here's something from almost a decade ago that I've created (it's also referenced in the iceberg) I would be EXTREMELY surprised if anyone remembers this

Thanks for your reply~ I was impatient during these months. And I will try to use these method. Talking her is a good way for me to get away from screen addiction indeed.