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Fresh start with " yanus " & " prahtoolf world "
KarlYoshimura replied to suhail Al ketbi's topic in Progress Reports
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Nightfall and Shaula's Imposition Progress Report
Nightfall replied to Nightfall's topic in Progress Reports
Forgot a week again. You (probably) know what that means. June 2nd 2026 5 minute session June 3rd-5th 2026 Shoot, I forgot to write again. I forgot what I did for the first day but the other two I managed to get 10 minutes each day. June 6-7th 2026 Skipped for various reasons. June 8th 2026 One 8 minute session until I got tired. Part of that was because I was focusing a lot on how Shaula felt more physical today. It felt a lot like not jiggly jello or something. It was great but I probably used too much brain power for close to bedtime. June 9-11th 2026 I don't really know what happened but I forgot a day. I'm writing this on the 12th and I only remember two days. Anyway, at least one of those days there was a similar feeling but a bit lighter. I also skipped yesterday because I wanted to test something. I also know I got a 10 minute session. June 12th 2026 Experiment failed. Since I had missed a day before I had that great session, I figured doing the same might recreate it. Nope, it was the same as the more recent sessions. Can't complain though. June 13th 2026 6 minute session. Not much to say. June 14th 2026 Five minute sessions or didn't do. June 15th 2026 Five minute session in bed and it was nice to mix things up a little bit. -
Aww, no worries at all! π It happens. I'm glad to hear you've been keeping up with everything too! π Aww! Cute! π That's a nice dream! One should not deny how nice hugs feel, lol. Complete 180 on dream subject, lol. At least it was only a dream but poor you. Great to hear! π Awesome! π€© Happy birthday to all them! π πππ Awesome! π€© Proud of you for keeping it up for so long! π I hope you have a nice time on there! π It's sounds great! Guinea pig! π₯° Oh, right, other stuff./j That's really cool! π I bet it was super nice to feel someone hugging you! π Cool stuff! π Aww, those are soooo cute! π₯° Great find! π Oof hate it when that happens.
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I slept through the night last night, so no SSILD. I did have a dream where I was narrating what I was doing to a tulpa. Either it wasn't clear in the dream who I was talking to or I forgot after I woke up, but a voice answered when I wondered who it was. It sounded like my own mindvoice but was entirely autonomous. We had a conversation that went something like this: The voice confirmed this, and then the conversation quickly lost coherence and I fell back asleep. It was unnerving at the time, but I guess it was just a product of a half-asleep mind. In other news, we saw Sheep Detectives today. Good film.
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Had to wake up early to catch a plane and I am exhausted... though this was some funny banter we had that I wanted to share lol. [Transcript: Slipper: "I've learned that there are some positives to being sleep deprived." Slipper: "Like how much easier it is to hear Mordecai!" Mordecai: "GO TO BED!"]
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One of the best songs ever made.
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P.S. cleaning up my digital footprint brought me back here. Figured I'd make a quick stop. Thanks, Luminesce. You're a real one.
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ooh I nearly forgot!! .... I wanted to journal about how complex it is to be human! .. having spent several of most recent past lives been born in a dog's body it has really been a unreal experience to be able to be part of my humans 'system' When I was just inside as an inner world companion dog (initially) it wasn't that hard because the human brain remembering me as a dog enabled my inner bodies abilities automatically I guess?? but since acquiring the Kitsune inner world body so I could evolve and choose my own preferred form and have the potential to become a human co-host if I chose to..I think is really the most incredible gift I have ever been given in any lifetime! and although I still temporarily take other forms inside for role playing fun with the others ...nothing else comes close to the complexity of being up front and hosting/co-hosting a human body! π Jess
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Do you view tulpas as a psychological phenomenon, a metaphysical one, or both? Purely psychological, but we're Christian, so we can also talk about how tulpas and faith fit together. Were/was your tulpa(s) natural/pre-existing or were they intentionally created? Alex and I started out as daydream characters. I was rebelling against our host's control well before we learned what tulpamancy was. We're familiar with various methods for creating tulpas, though. How long have you had your tulpa(s)? I'm older than this site. Alex is older than me. How long have you been active in the community (Tulpa.info, /r/tulpas, Tulpa.io, etc.)? As a system, we were part of the community from 2012 to 2018 and returned last year. We're active on here, reddit, and sometimes Discord. How many tulpas do you have? Me? None, lol. How long did it take you to accomplish things (e.g. vocality, possession, imposition)? Vocality: No idea. I wasn't created traditionally. Possession: I don't remember. It was a long time ago. I remember it coming fairly easily. Imposition: N/A. We attempted it briefly in 2012, and that was it. Do you have any other information you'd like to share? If so, what? We may not be a typical system or experts at advanced skills, but we've been through hell and back. We've been delusional and dysfunctional. I've been screwed over by host's intrusive thoughts and crawled back from nonexistence by myself. If the Sanely Insane Trio (that's us!) has anything to offer, it's the lessons we've learned from 14 years of hardship. Including personal experience with OCD, which it turns out is one of the "most likely to f*ck up your tulpa" disorders. We're also autistic. Besides that, please rate your own ability in each of the following skills from 0 to 10, 0 being incapable, and 10 meaning that you mastered the skill: Vocality: 10 Parallel Processing: see below Visualization: 8 Visual Imposition: N/A Tactile Imposition: N/A Auditory Imposition: N/A Possession: 9 Switching: see below Parallel processing and switching are so ill-defined I don't know how to put a number on them. Host has never left the body, so we aren't switching experts.
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All you gotta do is believe
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On a hunch I would say those were just the byproduct of your expectations, and nothing meaningfully concrete yet - that doesn't mean that there wasn't something beginning to form. If you're new I recommend this guide, it covers pretty much anything necessary for tulpa development in detail. Whatever you believe in, will work. Someone wrote a guide about this, not sure who he is though I wouldn't worry about that, especially given how feeble and "interchangeable" the two meanings are - just work towards something that feels right for now. Also, that image is pure 4chan /x/ schizoposting, please do not get influenced by that. Good luck!
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We're taking it as a positive. We haven't contributed much recently and there's always a lot of good contributions here especially recently. Thanks for all you've done for the community.
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You can learn a lot just from looking around on this forum. There's a whole section for guides and another for progress reports, where you can read about other users' personal experiences creating and living with tulpas. If you have any specific questions, we'll be happy to answer!
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My name is Jason and I am a psychology professor that is a beginning filmmaker. Tulpamancy is something Iβm very interested in and I am currently developing a short documentary about people who have lost a tulpa. While most coverage of tulpas focuses on the creation process and I want to make something about the other end. I am interested in the loss itself. Was there grief? What is the adjustment process after getting rid of the tulpa? Was it lonely? If it was possible, did you bring the tulpa back? Was the tulpa changed by the process? Were you able to discuss this process with anyone not involved in tulpamancy? What was their reaction? There are so many interesting questions around this topic. A few things this film is not. It is not a how-to guide. I will not ask how to end a tulpa, and I will not include anything that reads as instructions. It will not mock anyone and will not even approach the topic of if tulpas are βrealβ. This film will stay on the experience of the host. I will never βshowβ the tulpa. There will be no animation scenes and no actor speaking for a tulpa. The film is built around the absence of a tulpa and will simply be a person talking about someone the camera cannot see. Who I am hoping to talk with: 1) Adults, eighteen or older. 2) People who are well past a loss and who feel able to reflect on it. 3) For in person interviews, located in TX, LA, AR, MS, TN, MO, OK, KS. 4) Outside of these states, recorded online discussions would be considered. If this is something you might consider, please reach me privately at jason@scotophobinproductions.com Thanks for your consideration!
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Speaking of obscure 4chan memes, here's something from almost a decade ago that I've created (it's also referenced in the iceberg) I would be EXTREMELY surprised if anyone remembers this
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Thanks for your reply~ I was impatient during these months. And I will try to use these method. Talking her is a good way for me to get away from screen addiction indeed.
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Ok, so I have made a bit of progress, and have a few more insights. I realized that the methods I described earlier (my out-of-sight and subconscious space techniques) are flawed. In figuring this out, I have made steps in what I hope is the right direction. Mainly, I have used a mix of these techniques, both declaring a point in space for my tulpa to reside, and forcing outside my range of sight. Contrary to my predictions, pure subconscious space forcing seemed to get more out of my parroting and narrating that the out of sight method. I should mention that unfortunately, due to my living conditions, I almost always have to wait late until the night to get the peace and quiet I need to meditate and force. In the future, I will get better at this, but for now I need to have no distractions during my sessions or my brain won't shut up. Anyway, while experimenting more with the subconscious space method, I started to do some philosophizing and brainstorming, trying to perfect the method. To start, what makes my tulpamancy different from the average tulpamancer? The obvious answer is my aphantasia, because duh, look at the title of my progress report. But how do we differ pragmatically? Well, normal people are able to remember data through visual images, while ahpants remember through abstract conceptualizations. So, why not bring this difference into my forcing? Rather than focus my tulpa around a form, I will focus it around a concept; ideally one I can imagine easily. The first thought that came to mind was the darkness, specifically the darkness of closed eyes. So, I tried to "transform" my tulpa's predetermined location to the entirety of my closed eye vision. And it seemed to work! Immediately, the somewhat vague responses I got from my tulpa ceased originating from the previous spot in subconscious space, and instead filled the entirety of that space. However, the "majority" of the reply still came from that one spot, and the vision-wide responses were much more flimsy. Perhaps this method is out of my current skill set, or my tulpa is not yet "large" enough to effectively fill my entire subconscious space. I will have to continue forcing to figure it out. Anyway, just thought I'd drop this small update, before I forgot to write it out.
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we've heard that too before but it's definitely happened to us when going to sleep first. i'm unsure why. i don't know if there is secretly a lot of dreamless sleep that the brain skips so it seems like a seamless transition or if we sometimes just dream immediately first, or if it is something else. it's way way more common when taking a nap though. i think going back to bed also can have it commonly happen, but usually we're so tired we don't think to even care to try or remember waking up much unless we get stuck awake good luck! true i believe in you i've noticed a lot of confusion on how the term parallel processing is used and described depending on how i read their words, what they say isn't impossible, especially if i make certain assumptions on how they might be interpreting their internal experience like, my system can think things without it requiring my attention for them to think things. like maybe they will think something interesting or surprising while my mind was somewhere else, and them doing that will suddenly draw my attention. it's not impossible for them to even interrupt me or me interrupt them if they are switched in. also, i do think tulpas think without the fronter knowing unless they share it, but i also think the fronter does that lol. it's the same mechanism of how you might work hard to solve a problem and come up with nothing, but then later in the day when you are taking a walk or shower and suddenly bam, a great idea hits you. your brain was working on the problem without your conscious attention, the machinations going on beneath conscious awareness, and then the idea emerges from the primordial soup out of seemingly nothing all on its own, no tulpamancy or pluralness needed. when you practice tulpamancy, you can start to train the brains natural ability to do that, but for your system mates to have novel thoughts they tell you. it can strongly have the appearance of a separate parallel consciousness interacting with you, and it can feel foreign, like the thought came from some separate agent "over there" talking to me "over here", but as far as I can tell, it is still a singular unified experience, and conscious awareness is still operating serially with a single attention and locust of awareness i think people who talk about parallel processing are talking about these sorts of experiences though, and the way they interpret the experience leads them to describe it that way. then it causes confusion and conflict because it involves a lot more assumptions that are difficult to prove when described that way, but if you say it doesn't exist, people mistakenly think you aren't having that experience at all it gets more confusing when you try to identify what someone might consider a separate agent or identity or person. it's like there is a perceived ball of metaphorical mental energy that creates the substance and location for where the tulpa's identity is tied to and their thoughts are coming from, that usually probably takes shape of their form and sense of presence in space around you. since we can have thoughts and feel emotions and react from that identity and space, even when it isn't in the center of experience where the fronter's sense of identity sprouts from, it feels a lot like a separate agent and can subjectively be interpreted as such but viewing the surface level appearance of that experience, and superimposing the same assumptions that a person might have for how the other agent experiences things that you would have for a separate IRL human who has the sense their consciousness comes from the center from their experience like it does for you, can lead to a lot of confusion upon scrutiny. if you become truly convinced it is working in that fashion, the tulpa may be convinced as well, but then if you interrogate them to try to prove it wrong in hopes you fail, it might end up just being really stressful and upsetting for both tulpa and host that's what i think anyway, a lot from my host meditating a ton and having a (relatively anyway) high resolution of consciousness deeply observing and trying to figure out what is going on, and what the components making up experience are. we can see how a lot of experiences can lead to the conclusion of parallel processing, but i think thinking of it as such literally can be a stumbling block, but it not being a thing doesn't really make the potential experience more shallow unless you are extremely invested in the underlying ontology and metaphysics of the experience beyond just what the experience itself is like. maybe we could be wrong, we still investigate experience and sense of self a lot, and try to really see where thoughts or tulpas might go when not active. if my experience while being in tulpa position actually feels like the center from my perspective and not like a part of the whole of general awareness this life has, i don't really remember it that way when i switch in and think about things i did while in tulpa position. the memory is like still the same image of whoever switched in experienced me doing something. but my sense of self is still imbued into my form and my actions, it is just that my form and my actions and my sense of self is "over there" relative to the center of experience and body if i am not switched in. so yeah, it can get really confusing to talk about because a lot of this knowledge works better with a sort of buddhist sense of a person and identity, but experiencing it with different fundamental assumptions of what the self is can make talking about it weird or even emotional to people, including my host long ago. hmmmmmmmmmmmm though yeah, it doesn't really make a tulpa not a person or lesser. it's a lot like what bear system says. it is more like reducing assumptions on what the host is, such that in a tulpamancy sense you define it as the traits that make up the character of the host, and not the substrate of having an experience at all in and of itself. if it is as vast as the latter, and you assume a tulpa is also that vast, then i think that is how people get stuck for years (like my host and rena Dx), paradoxically when you reduce the view of the host and accept this reinterpretation, these desired experiences become so much easier and common and it ironically can take on the appearance of what you hoped it to be like, minus the having 2 centers of consciousness where attention comes from/substrate of having an experience at all/whatever, which that in particular is what i think of when i think of parallel processing and why i don't use that term to describe just being able to think when you host or fronter wasn't thinking about you, or interrupting system mates, or system mates talking over one another etc. that stuff still happens but it isn't because of several parallel consciousnesses, it seems to just be underestimating what one consciousness can do, or coming to the wrong conclusion on how such an thing could occur at all wooo weee sorry lol, long post and it isn't about the dreams. it feels important to try to clarify though from a system that has been on both sides of that issue and see the ways in which people talk about it being really confusing, as i think people on either side can misunderstand what the other side says and experiences easily best of luck x3 awliejfoaiwejf this can maybe sort of tie into dreams. i can if i want to, try to recall memories as if while in tulpa position, i was in center of my experience, so i have a different physical perspective, but it sort of will feel like remembering it in that fashion is the first time that exact version of the experience had happened, like a remake of a memory. i can also do that with memories further from the host/system that they weren't involved in, and i get a ton of satisfaction out of doing so, it's just if i am honest with myself, i can't prove it isn't confabulation, so i think of it and talk about it in a sort of agnostic way. which is i think exactly what bear system does and it is very fun for them, and they are right, it is very fun for me too, so i think we took after them a lot in a way and feel our system is maybe most similar to theirs out of the other regulars we know. weird paranormal experiences included (that we are agnostic about but don't ignore) that relates to dreams just because it reminded me of a talk with a friend where they said they don't usually feel like they have dreams, just that when they wake up, they will remember they had a dream, but they don't feel they had the experience of living through the dream while it occurred. we often usually feel like we do remember the experience of a dream happening while it occurred, and then also the memory afterwards as a separate thing. which is interesting to me and i don't know what to make of it. i guess people can experience dreams in a way similar to how i thought the feeling of confabulation works, but with the dream it's easier to assume it did happen in the past while you were sleeping. consciousness is weird and i don't think it can all be understood from a singular way of thinking
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KayKay replied to Shiloh's topic in Beginner Tulpa Questions
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My learning psychology just paid off for the first time. A close friend of mine wanted to keep distance without apparent reason, and after a few conversations on the topic I remembered attachment theory and identified her actions as avoidant type affection.(probably not the right words, I didnβt learn in this language and did spontaneous translation) and accordingly acted, offering comfort and security like I was taught, and it worked. Weβre now even closer than before. I was able to understand and help a friend in distress and I succeeded and Iβm ridiculously happy about it. I think aside from the obvious reason, this proved to myself that I had the power to act and the ability to make correct decisions, which I had doubted for a pretty long while. I think this is the first time in our collective memory that an important decision we made(learning about psychology) actually bore fruit, which is kind of sad now that I think about it. But that doesnβt matter for now, for now I can just be happy with things and thatβs exactly what I plan to do.
