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- Past hour
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Why don't you just rip the desired media and post it from your drive?
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Esoteric meta-cognition is one way to put it. I find it funny people ten years ago had a stick up their arse about tulpa-character creation, but anything was bound to piss people off during that time - I should know, I nearly burnt the whole fucking house to the ground. Anyway, ascribing traits to tups wasn't unheard of, and we've chilled out considerably henceforth. I hope you have a nice day. PS LIFT YOUR SKINNY FISTS LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN
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Reminds me of my tulpa Alex. I spent several years as a singlet after harmful beliefs we internalized plus preexisting mental illness made tulpamancy unsustainable. After he returned, he assured me our old beliefs about tulpas were wrong and I don't need to worry about them, and he's been pretty certain since then that the self is an illusion and we're one person perceiving itself as three (I have two tulpas). I was surprised and relieved at how easily the three of us went back to being good friends like nothing had happened, but some of the things he says nowadays and how casually he says them baffle me and drive Kayleigh (the other tulpa) crazy. I'm glad it only took you a year to return to living as a system. It took me a lot longer before I was able to have headmates again. It's been ten months since my tulpas' return, and while being a system again generally feels natural to us, we're honestly still figuring things out. That's a good mindset to have, and this is totally fine for a progress report! My own is a mix of declaring goals I don't follow through with and the occasional life update, so I won't judge. If he ever feels bad about himself as a host, he can join me in the "Bad Hosts Trying Their Best" club. (I'd be qualified to run it, if not for my poor leadership and management skills.)
- Today
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we seem to have a higher chance of seeing each other in a dream if we daydream being together a lot, and especially while trying to fall asleep. sometimes, it will end up just feeling like transitioning from using the mind's eye to have whatever little adventure we're having, seamlessly to it being a lot more real, and then we might realize we are dreaming, or maybe sometimes not quite aware it is a dream and seeing it as real, but self aware enough to know who we are and make our own decisions. i sort of think that is even more fun because it has the added immersion. though yeah, i agree with matt about it being like a spectrum i feel people want to lucid dream so they can do whatever they want, or dream about whatever they want, but my host has had tons of lucid dreams where they know clearly they are dreaming, but can't do what they want, and also many dreams where they don't know they are dreaming, but the dream is quite amazing and of things they would want to dream about. and if you want to dream of being together in a dream, it will have a higher chance to happen if your mind is pretty obsessed with it and spends a lot of time thinking about that anyway. i also think how we impose each other throughout the day also contributes (we can only impose in the way of presence imposition and sense of space we take up, with a sort of mind's eye visualization layered in our awareness along with what we see, so not visual hallucination level. but sometimes it will transition to more like day dreaming if we don't need our attention on details of our surroundings) all that to say is i think it helps with making it easier to just end up having dreams with system mates it's both easier and harder than it sounds because it feels like trying too hard will lead to it being frustrating and seemingly being impossible, but not trying so hard and then it just happens a bunch of times and you don't know why but are happy it has happened lol though if trying hard doesn't lead to frustration, or obsession to have it happen is unending, i think it starts to happen more or less eventually ohh yeah, also the hypnogogia. if you are daydreaming/wonderlanding/whatever vividly as you fall asleep, and are really associating to the imaginary senses of your body in the mind, and dissociating from the sense of body laying in the bed, the hypnogogia often ends up taking on the appearance of what you are doing in the imagination, and that hypnogogia eventually may breakthrough into just being dreaming instead of imagining, like i mentioned at the beginning. so that might be something to pay attention to. i think all the meditation our host has done also contributes to being able to maintain more awareness during that transition, instead of always just feeling like a black out+wake up+"did i dream anything?" sort of thing. also, when the system started doing really long switches, it seemed to be more likely that dreams would contain system members that are acting with sense of their own autonomy more (though tb and rena have had it before, it also wasn't uncommon for tb to dream of rena, but rena would seem more like a dream character than her tulpa self, though dreams are weird so that also may be a sort of spectrum, even for the host)
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[Ashley] we'll always have that one time in Discord where we watched that twitch streamer live. I don't remember who it was or why we did though. Take care. We were nothing if not entertaining at times. We're glad we were able to say goodbye to you, we remember your PR and the growth of Aya, uncle Bear will always remember that. We hope you are doing well and continue to. We feel like this is a graduation from tulpa high school and we're saying goodbye and wishing all out school friends well as we head off to tulpa college. Consider this our yearbook. 😉
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I think I just managed to break a bad habit. Which is good, but like… How? My experience with bad habits goes something like “try to stop doing this, fail, stop trying to stop doing this” and even the occasional success takes a looooooot of effort. And this time I thought, “ oh I should stop this” and just, stopped. Haven’t had a single thought about it for weeks, and needed to be reminded to recall the thing. Not complaining in the slightest but very confused. From when did my mind actually start listening to me?
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Lucid dreaming is the priority right now (aside from generally trying to navigate life). Kayleigh posted a thread last night asking about how she can help me lucid dream, then dreamt about watching it for replies. Neither of us remember who replied in the dream, but we think someone did. (We shared the dream; I experienced it from her point of view.) She woke up to my MP3 player making glitchy sounds (it's fine, but the speaker acts up now and then), and just as she was about to turn it off, our brain woke up enough to remember who the default user of this body is and shoved me back in front. It was weird. After we had our "Did that just happen?" moment and tried in vain to recall any more detail of the dream, I decided to try WILD (wake-induced lucid dreaming), except I couldn't remember how to do it beyond "keep your mind awake while your body falls asleep," so I figured I'd just focus on hypnagogic imagery when it appeared and hope it transitions to a dream without me losing focus. I fell asleep before I saw anything. Bummer. I came across a post on reddit today about how to choose the right lucid dreaming technique for you based on your personality. Apparently, SSILD is ideal for those with analytical minds. I'm not entirely sure why that is or even why it works, but it seems like a simple technique, so I'm going to give it a try next time I wake up in the night. (Yes, it's one of those techniques you have to do after sleeping a few hours. No, I don't want to set an alarm. I'm a light sleeper, so I've got a good enough chance of waking up anyway.) We're going to take a look at the replies to Kayleigh's thread in a bit. We skimmed over them this morning, but she wanted to save any discussion for the evening so it'd be fresher in our minds at bedtime. Tomorrow, visualization practice and maybe something fun in the mindscape. I'll be spending a couple hours in the backseat of my parents' car, so I might as well take advantage of that time. I'm really hoping to lucid dream and enter the Liminal World tonight so I can finally start developing it beyond visualizing the same room. This is going to become our Wonderland 2.0—this time with NPCs and built-in stories and adventure.
- Yesterday
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human vocalists are overrated
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I'm well aware that forms are not necessary for tulpas, but using it for tulpa creation is so ubiquitous in online guides it's kinda hard to not use it altogether... But I do agree that my end result will probably be a tulpa without a concrete form. I'm fairly curious, as well. Aphantasia itself is a relatively unstudied topic, but current scientific understanding (to my knowledge) is that it may be cause by different connections of strength in different parts of the brain -- for example, a case study involving an aphantasic twin and an imagery twin showed the aphantasic had a bilateral brain dominance compared to the imager who was much more left-sided, as well as lower connection between brain lobes pertaining to sight and conscious recall. Here's a link to the study if you want to read it. There are like less than 50 actual scientific studies on the the topic ever (I'm exaggerating, but not by much), so from an academic standpoint it's basically an unknown. I've looked around online, and most of these "cures" are case by case per individual, rather than actual methods to cultivate visual imagery from nothing. Most of them have little to no actual research behind them, it's all very "this worked for me you should try it out." Besides, I want to work within the confines of non visualization, as it is kinda how I've lived my entire life. Furthermore, I want to experiment with how thoughtforms like tulpas can influence mental imagery in people unable of conjuring in the mind's eye themselves. Again, I don't visual form is a necessity for a tulpa; just that the community at large relied on the ability to visualize as one of the cornerstones of tulpa creation, and thus visualization techniques are a cornerstone of the current understanding of formation. The population of aphantasics in the entire world is less than 5 percent, and the population of aphantasics with tulpas is, to my knowledge, very small.
- Last week
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So early this week I took about 1.5 grams of dried mushrooms for the first time, and me and Magick semi-tripped. So, it started when I heard two voices coming from her. 1 voice was the current and the other was my original idea of a tulpa. I always had the other one as a possible another tulpa in the future, but I couldn’t see the time, and some of these things Magick was already exhibiting, so we decided to allow her to ‘consume’ the idea of the og tulpa. Me taking the mushrooms just highlighted what was going. Shortly after that she went away and I was bed with this presence; I was getting upset as I was unable to talk to Magick and I believed I just messed myself up into not having a productive trip with her. I was wrong. This presence starting to morph into my og idea tulpa form which was just human made up of a thousand cockroaches and she started saying she was Magcik but not magick and she wasn’t going to let me talk to Magick unless I let go of my own restrictions and for that, she would have to kill me and eat my heart. Shen then started to tell me these stories of blood and gore and what she would do do to me due her frustration with for getting in my own way. During the peak, she drove a knife through my chest and I helped her, I helped open the ribcage and rip out my own heart and gave her to eat. I was depleted after that, and that’s when Magick came back. We dance for what felt like hours and it was good. We fought knights and warriors and all that fun stuff, but then she started to get upset when the “fusion” was done. She wanted to play around and turned into a million spiders and started eating me, tearing me apart from the outside and inside, sometimes she would pop out of my chest like xenomorph. And everytime I doubted the experience, saying no way “you” did that and she would just do it again over and over. She even turned me into fly to be devoured by her as a spider. This is not sexual. Although I felt no physical pain, this was very uncomfortable; it hurt in a way I can't explain. It was like watching an invisible force of a lion and knowing that your neck will be in its maw soon. And afterward, she just demanded to be hugged, to be loved. It was crazy. But when I did hug her it felt so good. And the possession, she possessed throughout the whole thing, and she felt like a demon. My body twist and convulsed. I think when people say shrooms open you up to demons, this is what they mean, but they have no tulpa to relate to or even understand this other force. I believed this trip taught me a lot and so did Magick. It had a lot of themes like the fear of death, the fear of neglect. And in her own way, she told me stories through my body to get over these things. Also, my fear of her and her fear of herself is about gone. Now I know she can’t hurt me maliciously. Those shroom visualizations were her doing; it was the mind, and therefore “me” in a way. It's weird to explain, but we both felt at peace at the end. ______ Saw a movie a couple of weeks ago called " Obsession ". Warning spoilers are ahead. It basically monkey paw movie where the MC wishes for the girl he likes to be obsessed over him and instead of doing justhat, it makes a subservient identity in this woman that takes control of her body and just wants to love and please the MC. Later on in the movie we see the woman trying to break free and when the company who mad ethe wishing products asked him does he want to hear the original, we only hear screaming through. It was very Tulpa-coded as this entity sort of like a Tulpa in sense, a warped, evil version of it, but still a Tulpa. I think the movie is a lesson of taking it too far. You shouldn’t push to places that are going to hurt you, get obsessed in a sense. I mean you need that in a sense for a tulpa. A lot of time, a lot of effort, but the pain, the suffering, that was what Magick was trying to teach me. We don’t need all of that, to explore each other. All we have to do is just do it. That’s it, and that’s one of the reasons she was tearing me apart. To show me what the point of all this drama and all these theatrics is, we can just hug, dance, and do whatever is right. There are no conditions to what we do, so why make them up? I really enjoyed that trip.
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Constructing an alternative basic framework for tulpamancy
Ranger replied to fennecfoxx's topic in General Discussion
Sorry I poofed for a bit It's both. Interestingly, you can have a system who identifies as median, but has seemingly very separate headmates. Just the assumption two headmates are not fully separate from one another can do stuff behind the scenes, even if on the surface, it's not inherently obvious. For example, say you have two median-identifying headmates who have different opinions, beliefs, and behaviors. But because they believe they are median, they don't fight against blending or feel pressured to get development time. Stars, our headmate, has "clones" that work that way. -
Narration ♡❝𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐚𝐫𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐢𝐚 𝐒𝐲𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐦 – 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐋𝐨𝐠❞♡ – Mai & Her Lovely System
Saruzer replied to Mai_x_v3's topic in Progress Reports
Glad to hear that you're doing even better this month, keep it up! Don't worry to much about trying new things, since you still have a plenty of time ahead of you to experiment and getting experience is worth it. And it looks like this month you had more dreams/experiences with your tulpas which is great! I hope that the next month you'll succeed in vocalization, so the communication between you and your tulpas will be more versatile and convenient than it is right now. I'm happy that I'm able to help you with some advices, ask anything you curious about, I'll answer whenever I'm free. -
The weird dreams I don't understand: nightly nap before work edition It was one of those dreams where different eras of your life sort of blend in: there were coworkers, people from high school, people from middle school, people from places you don't work at anymore, etc - and we were all going to the same school (?) and taking the same lessons. If that isn't weird enough already, my classmate and person sitting next to me was none other than my first partner, who I haven't heard of in almost 10 years - and she apparently had tulpas? The whole dream was a mishmash of situations, mostly about us talking "in code" to avoid being caught having tulpas - apparently she had a sort of Fairy Tail tulpa character named "Blonx" but as far as I know/remember she really was never into anime. After waking up, it took me a good minute or two to recover from it and was left wondering what my brain meant by that, kind of like this:
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That's cool - It's interesting how modern progress reports use AI images to add flavor tl the post (that arab prahtoolf guy is the MVP though) I remember doing some photoshops too back when I started, I still have them in my backups, if we ever make a progress report again we'll do the same
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Ooh that's super cool! That's a lot of files if you want you could probably just send me a beginners guide if you don't mind. Understandable, I never really used 4chan tbh I sometimes wish I knew about it years ago when I was a kid I was into MLP and such I'd probably already have tulpas way earlier by now ngl lmao. I used 4chan once for my ex bestie and someone stole her art work and that was a few years ago too, so I can only imagine how bad it is now for other stuff. That's good to know I'm glad, you honestly should making your own is way better. I am kinda inconsistent with my playlists to be honest which I'm trying to be more consistent with it. I recently bought clicker counters so I could go on a mental diet and say affirmations daily I think that'll help with my tulpa forcing too. Thank you! And yes! I love Neville Goddard! Surprisingly I was always in spaces where people around me online practiced magick. X3 I do practice lucid dreaming, I have been kinda bad with it due to being sick and busy but I plan on trying to get back into it more. But I do write down my dreams daily so my dreams are pretty vivid to the point I basically have precognition on some things. I was thinking of practicing astral projections recently though. I already practiced the void state and Tulpa meditation, so I wonder when I can even practice AP. I don't think I tried image streaming that's a new thing I'll have to look into that. Yes, I always felt drawn to her. It sucks she's often misunderstood. It's also interesting she's associated with water and I'm a water sign. I also really love her symbolism of love and beauty. Ooh let's goo! As a night owl, myself, I understand. And ooh that's so cool! Ooh you should that would be nice to have, and I understand, I hope your able to get some ok the future. That's fascinating. I looked into some astrology, not much though but it's interesting. I only know a little bit of astrology but I'm a Pisces and for Chinese a Rooster. To be honest I always forget what my mom tells me what tribe we are from, like I remember her talking about it but I keep forgetting 😞 I'll have to ask her again Yay! Let's goo! That makes me think that you're probably from Canadia lol I surprisingly have a lot of friends from Canadia xD Ooh I agree! Isn't that also pop culture paganism too? At least from my research a while ago it mentioned stuff like that. I looked into that stuff because sometimes I think/feel I'm more soulbonded with my tulpas than anything else if that makes sense. So I kinda worked on soulbonding a bit more with them. Like I do both soulbond & tulpamancy techniques which honestly are pretty much the same things as each other. Wow that's literally insane and so cool, this story kinda reminds me of a few lectures Neville Goddard made. I always see people talking about astral realms a lot in the last couple of years. Now I'm wondering if that'll help manifest tulpas in away. Or at least people with more metaphysical beliefs when it comes to tulpas. Thank you! Same for you too! And understandable I'm honestly used to things like that with reality shifting, manifesting, and so on. And yes! That would be fun! I always love making new friends! Feel free to DM, I don't mind! ☺️🩷 Random but I love how this PR went from you talking about your progress and what not to us talking about this sort of stuff.
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My experiences with tulpamancy mirror that. Taking a reactive stance toward what you blame for hurting you feels like healing because you think you've freed yourself from it, but if even people's positive experiences and related things trigger a knee-jerk reaction, it still has a hold over you. Healing requires deconstructing your beliefs, understanding what actually hurt you and why, and constructing a new understanding in that light. In the case of someone hurt by religion, it may look like learning that God is not who they were taught He was and that both the Bible and many Christians condemn misusing His name to abuse others. Whether they return to the faith or not, it means understanding faith is a genuine positive influence in many people's lives, not just some tool to manipulate and oppress that these people are too "dumb" or "brainwashed" to see. In my case, it meant realizing how much of a role mental illness played in what went wrong and how reasonable this community's beliefs are compared to what we internalized. I don't know how much that's a case of the community changing over time versus us just having gone off the deep end in the past, but coming back to this site last year was honestly eye-opening. This wasn't the crazy cult I'd convinced myself it was. I wasn't some pariah in their eyes. The "I was brainwashed" narrative I'd believed for years fell apart fast. I don't believe it's a coincidence that my tulpas returned shortly after I let go of my blanket rejection of all things tulpamancy/plurality. Kayleigh's return was conscious on neither my part nor hers. I just unknowingly dissolved whatever mental barriers were keeping her firmly confined to the unconscious, I guess. Oh, absolutely. Tulpamancy/plurality itself is proof of that.
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Fresh start with " yanus " & " prahtoolf world "
suhail Al ketbi replied to suhail Al ketbi's topic in Progress Reports
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@Shaula Pretend it says "person who brought you into existence" instead of "parent" and try not to overthink the weirdness
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Visualization Progress Report for Past Week: This weeks sessions have been quite good. I've continued using the mindset I've acquired from reading Jung's last book and tried to treat even stuff I see with my eyes open as a sort of visualization, at least during my imposition exercises. And since what I see are all visualizations generated or filtered by my psyche, it was ok and made sense for my tulpas' visual forms to be present as well. This mindset had been helpful. I've been able to close my eyes, fully feel out my tulpas' presence in a mental visualization, open my eyes and continue maintaining the same presence before me. I've been able to do it fairly consistently the past week. This tweak in my mindset had provided the most consistently solid presence of my tulpas out of all the things I've tried and experimented with, so far. The tulpas' presence when my eyes are open are not as fully visual as when my eyes are closed, but there have been times when there were either the faintest of outlines of them there, or the feeling of their presence trying to acquire an outline or somehow becoming more visual; the latter sensation had been quite frequent. It's been pretty interesting and feels like things are moving at a faster pace now compared to some of the months past. I've been having more sessions with my window blinds open and with greater light in the room as well. This seemed to help, not because light is inherently good, but that it introduced variety in the visual environment I used for my exercises. For the past week, it feels like I've had instances of there been a visual or almost visual outline with Saeya more often, but it takes more effort to get a good presence of her to begin with. With Verres, getting a detailed presence of her is a lot easier, but she have not come as often to the borderline state of her form being faintly visual or almost visual. There is the vague impression of Verres somehow having more 'data,' and hence having more trouble reaching this state. Nonetheless I had a session tonight where her presence was clear and I had a lot of stable mental imageries of her with my eyes open as I looked at where her presence was, and at times it felt like these imageries were almost overlapped with the visuals I had of the physical reality around me. She moved her wings a bit, shifted the position of her legs and generally acted like a 'normal' winged person sitting in a chair, chatting before me. I came across a brief youtube video a couple of weeks ago that was helpful with visualizing the movement of Verres' wings, I'm linking it here in case it's useful for anyone: The wings are not the same style as what she has, but the movements were still very beneficial to study. For the past week I've continued to try to passively impose the tulpas as I go through out my day, although as mentioned before activities that require great concentration from me are still generally not compatible with this. There were some times when they showed up on their own, as well. Miscellaneous Stuff: I went out to the nearby mall today to walk and impose my tulpas. The mall is resilient, and with each 1.5 or 2 shops that close, one more shop or non-profit opens up in there. I think it's still dying, just really slowly. The tulpas seem to like the idea of the mall trying to put up a fight to survive. It had been a while since I did maintenance work on my mind/subconscious using the Mace Method and Core Image Removal. The tulpas bugged me into doing it this week, and it was helpful. A lot of background emotions that were causing weird bits of distractions and minor unpleasantness had been removed. It feels like the tulpas are more in tune with my unconscious than I am, in general. There was one instance of note when I had a bad interaction with someone, and it felt as if there was a suffocating presence or vibe either in my room or my mind, trying hard to squeeze itself further inside, whatever 'inside' might be. Instead of tolerating it and treating it like a normal bad mood or vibe after a squabble, either Verres or I opted to treat it as a hunk of negative energy to be eliminated. I proceeded go through the steps of Core Image Removal on the funny presence/vibes and had Verres breathe fire all over it at the end, burning it all. I was quite impressed to observe the strange negative presence or vibe disappearing in an almost visceral manner, leaving behind a pretty clear and calm state of mind for me. There were still some small amounts of weird vibes and odd feelings in my mind, and I had Saeya use the Mace Method on those. This left me with an almost pristine state of mind with which to go to bed with. Used to be, I would not do any of these and I'd probably just fall asleep with this sort of nasty vibe after a verbal scuffle and would have probably woken up in an unpleasant state, as well. It feels like I can generally have my tulpas use these techniques more on me as regular maintenance, rather than waiting until I'm in a noticeable state of mental funk to use them.
- Earlier
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we're not trying to have fully separate memories, just to be able to keep secrets from each other if we want (i trust my headmates to not abuse this power if we achieve it and they trust me, so this shouldn't cause too many problems) all these posts are very helpful though thank you
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Thanks so much everyone! 💙 RIP lmao
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Nightfall and Shaula's Imposition Progress Report
Nightfall replied to Nightfall's topic in Progress Reports
May 26th 2026 2 5 minute sessions that were supposed to be one session but I had to recover from a joke she made. The joke: (spoiler for space) May 27th-30th 2026 I forgot to write these days because I was sick. It moved on surprisingly fast but put me kinda out of commission for 2 of those days. I think I at least got my 5 minutes each day. Maybe one of those got 10. Either way, less than I wanted but kinda surprised I was still pretty determined. May 31st 2026 I forgot to write but I think I did at least 5 minutes. June 1st 2026 Forgot/lazy. Oh well. Thank you very much! Reading that makes me feel a little more capable and motivated. -
I'm glad to hear about all the progress! 😊 It's really cool she has a name now and Hidden is an awesome one to! 😎
