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how did you do that?

 

Something like TOG's centering technique.

 

I quiet my own thoughts. This part came naturally from pseudo-meditating for forcing. Actually it's gotten so that I can shut up most songs stuck in my head by doing this. So this can block out tulpa thoughts, and was doing so.

 

I then think briefly about my tulpa's name (to bring to mind the whole idea of her) and the idea of her voice. Then I let go of that, focus on her and listen. I ask her questions to provoke responses.

 

At first the responses felt a lot like my own thoughts, except that I didn't really feel them forming before they just pop in. They're like when an insight just comes to you, fully formed, like another part of your mind was working on it for a while without you knowing.

 

These early tulpa thoughts can take the form of mindvoice, pictures, etc., or just pure thoughts. If it's a mindvoice, it will likely start out sounding like yourself at first. As you start to get a voice, don't be surprised if your tulpa speaks gibberish now and then. For me, this was sort of a soup of random syllables spoken quickly and like a sentence; if I asked the tulpa to repeat what she said, I would get the exact same sequence of syllables, though I could not have repeated them to myself if I tried. This appears to be a failed attempt to decode a pure thought. It's not clear whether it means the tulpa has sent it wrong or too faint, or if you simply aren't listening well enough to decode it right.

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This is enough to start the basics of communication. Further development just when I normally communicate with Tulpa?

I'm the man with the dark mind but with the heart of gold. I ask what I am good or bad person? What directs my actions?

 

Tulpa isn't about why, it's about why not.

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For me, this was sort of a soup of random syllables spoken quickly and like a sentence; if I asked the tulpa to repeat what she said, I would get the exact same sequence of syllables, though I could not have repeated them to myself if I tried.

 

Well, then this is the easier method to distinguish parroting from sentience, if you can't repeat the sequence yourself and she can, it's pretty much the easier way to confirm sentience.

I'm brazilian and my english is not really good, I'll do every mistake you imagine, but I'll try to avoid them.

 

Tulpa: Kuruminha

Age: Began on the middle of october.

Form: My avatar.

Sentience: Confirmed.

Mindvoice: Not yet.

Working on: Visualization and Mindspeaking.

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After a few successful completions, we got bored, and then ended up saying, "All the drains in spain flow mainly in my brain".

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I didn't think that this method would work so fast. My tulpa went from not talking at all to beginning to say actual sentences. Been on it for about a week and I've gotten clear responses during most of the sessions. Thanks for the guide.

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Approved. Similar to the guide "THE VOICE" but more direct. As a result this guide is useful on its own. [sentience] [Forcing]

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Approved for reasons Momo stated as well. There’s not much to give an elaborate critique on, and any method for coaxing/kick-starting/inducing/initiating fixed responses are transient methods in the first place.

 

As long as newcomers realize this, hopefully they’ll know that at some point they’ll have to unlearn their habits of being predisposed in initiating the responses and just talk naturally to their tulpas.

 

[Vocality] or [sentience] or something.

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