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Kiahdaj's Absolute Guide to Tulpas


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I'm just rolling with it

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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Maybe people like it because it's not completely retarded. N-not saying that it isn't retarded at all, baka...

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Maybe people like it because it's not completely retarded. N-not saying that it isn't retarded at all, baka...

 

B-baka...

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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Google docs just decided to make a new file out of the edits I made, so here's the updated link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yPztbNU1jKWtb89CnEzBal_0T4QPQ3A4f8j269dPV2o/edit

I tested it and this one is perfectly editable, so this should be the definitive one.

 

I'm almost done with translating the guide itself, only things missing are imposition, possession and conclusion.

Unfortunately school starts tomorrow, and I don't know how much free time I'll have, so if somebody would volunteer to translate the links in the guide that would be very appreciated. (you can send them to noobdreamer@gmail.com, and don't forget to tell me who you are or else I won't be able to credit you :P)

If not the guide shouldn't take any longer than mid september in the worst case, probably less.

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French Version updated, but lacks previous revision.

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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Ehm... Sorry to ask (maybe it's just tiredness, maybe not), but what do you mean exactly by :

lacks previous revision

 

Previous revision ? Which one is it ? The one from the July 12th ?

I've checked, and I think I can tell everything is translated in the version uploaded yet. (september 2013 version, see on the first page of it).

 

So, as I said, maybe I'm just derping on the wrong thing, but could you just tell me what you mean ? ^^

I'd rather be called a "fool" than go by other people's "standards" for me. It's their fault if there's drama. We need difference like food. Nothing to be ashamed of.

 

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From what it appears, you added all of the updated sections, but, and you may not have noticed--I revised a few paragraphs. Nothing major.

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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Huh, I had no idea you were working on a guide Kiahdaj.

 

I skimmed over it and it seems pretty solid. In fact, I kinda wish I had this guide when I first started. You did a nice job making this guide as broad as possible; it includes pretty much everything a beginner would need to know.

 

There is one thing I feel that this guide needs, though. It needs a section or a disclaimer that asks the reader to think about the consequences of making a tulpa. Most people don't seem to realize that creating a tulpa is a life-long commitment. They don't think for the long-term. That's when you end up with dissipations, attention starvation, and negativity in tulpa-host relationships. Not to mention hoards of accidental tulpa, or tulpas thrown in stasis because the hosts can't handle them. Potential hosts need to know that there are consequences for their actions, and that they need to take the process seriously. It doesn't help that the vast majority of new users are in their teens, and most teenagers just don't think about these things. This section would be a big help and I believe it's vital for success. I would add it around the "Why should I create a Tulpa?" or before the conclusion.

 

Accidental tulpas? Anything from this sounds like it would be on purpose. Are you referring to tulpas made on accident without someone even knowing tulpas are a topic in the world? Hm...


I disagree that a reason for not making a tulpa would be that someone's own personality, etc, is changing, or that that even stops when you're not a teenager anymore. If you're experiencing and living, parts of you can change, so that person should say no one should risk creating one. Also, I think this is already known but if someone doesn't think it's feeling and more like a program, the 'sentient being' warning won't mean anything to them. I myself am having a hard time thinking that they are actually feeling... can we create a 'soul' just by imagining its there, and whether we think up a personality or not? I think there would be more to it, but I don't know. I'm not sure where my own feeling comes from.

 

And then, the whole "sickening" thing... honestly, just how equal are they to a person? It should be sickening to oneself that they'd even trap someone in their body if they consider them full people - I certainly wouldn't want my consciousness stuck in you, with sometimes only ONE person who can even interact with me fully.

 

And remember that some people don't see it as they "might" not be alive...some people see it as not possible through us, and more like making a programmed psi ball. Those who think we have no consciousness separate from our bodies don't even believe that tulpa are energy forms like psi balls at all - just imaginary friends, like the ones that "died" when you were a kid, but with more signs that they are there.

 

Are there any cases of tulpas disappearing on their own when the person doesn't pay attention or stops believing they are there, I wonder? That's a good question... and if the tulpa's personality can change just because you wanted to change it. If it's true that they go just because your body died, they certainly can't be real consciousness, imo. For people that think we don't have one outside of our bodies, then tulpa truly are just imaginary friends and not actual people, I guess.

 

And then the whole not turning out as you like thing, ouch, that's like getting a random friend stuck to your hip.

 

Also.. tulpa as sex mates... o.O... and pony ones? Actual ponies, or human personalities stuck in pony bodies? -shudders-


Interesting "Switching" section. Indeed, if it worked, they would have all of your responsibilities. I say, if they truly want to, then it's fine, even if they were originally your responsibilities.


Ooo, also, the whole escaping life thing is harsh. I wouldn't want to do it, but it's incorrect that everything in one's life is one's own doing.. that goes against the very definition of life. You're being affected by everyone and everything else around you, and can't take good responsibility nor bad responsibility for EVERYTHING - good or bad - that happens to you. There are some people out there that didn't do a thing to be where they are, for instance, and others who had things they have to deal with now literally done to them, as literally done to as switching with a tulpa- to say otherwise would be victim blaming.

 

If someone wants to escape their life (not by switching with tulpa), whether it be in books, suicide, etc, that's not 'pathetic.' Sometimes it's perfectly understandable.. it's one thing to say one should keep on livin', it's another to say it's pathetic not to want to no matter what happens, in fact, it's random. There's no basis for it except random condescension.

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And remember that some people don't see it as they "might" not be alive...

I know some people don't see it as "might" not be alive--but those people are ignorant.

It's completely ridiculous to assume that the way you view a matter is in fact the way it is, with no other possibilities. It matters not if they think tulpas aren't separate consciousnesses--either way, the possibility is still there. Hence "might".

 

If it's true that they go just because your body died, they certainly can't be real consciousness, imo. For people that think we don't have one outside of our bodies, then tulpa truly are just imaginary friends and not actual people, I guess.

But that's assuming that there is any life after death. Notice this is a community based around the psychological (so somewhat "scientific") aspect of the phenomenon. Life after death is not a scientific matter.

Besides, I've not seen anyone who believes tulpas are as you and I, but believe that we live on after death, yet they don't.

 

Also.. tulpa as sex mates... o.O... and pony ones? Actual ponies, or human personalities stuck in pony bodies? -shudders-

They're teenagers--what do you expect?

 

Ooo, also, the whole escaping life thing is harsh. I wouldn't want to do it, but it's incorrect that everything in one's life is one's own doing.. that goes against the very definition of life. You're being affected by everyone and everything else around you, and can't take good responsibility nor bad responsibility for EVERYTHING - good or bad - that happens to you. There are some people out there that didn't do a thing to be where they are, for instance, and others who had things they have to deal with now literally done to them, as literally done to as switching with a tulpa- to say otherwise would be victim blaming.

But you alone are solely responsible for how you perceive and interpret the world around you. To perceive the world as harsh and threatening, sad and depressing, or happy and joyful, is entirely up to you. No one can force you to feel one way, or another. If you are unhappy, it is your own doing.

 

If someone wants to escape their life (not by switching with tulpa), whether it be in books, suicide, etc, that's not 'pathetic.'

And not once did I claim such things were.

 

Sometimes it's perfectly understandable.. it's one thing to say one should keep on livin', it's another to say it's pathetic not to want to no matter what happens, in fact, it's random. There's no basis for it except random condescension.

Neither did I say this.

I am all for suicide.

 

It is unfortunate that all this is what you took from that section.

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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