Lunaclipse September 13, 2013 September 13, 2013 Hey there - I'm kind of new to this, but I just have three questions to ask. The first one should be pretty easy: What is the difference between your tulpa speaking to you and auditory hallucination? The second one is a bit more extensive, so I'll provide an explanation of my progress so far in terms of tulpa development. I started making my tulpa about 3 months ago. Even now, this fact makes me feel inherently bad about myself, as I know deep down that I have lacked the commitment to developing my tulpa, whose name is Tay. Tay is an eevee, and I love him to bits - however, as a result of the lack of commitment I have experienced, he does not react or respond to anything that I ask him. He doesn't move at all by himself, and I'm not going to ask why, as I already know. About four days ago, I talked to my friends on a different IRC chat (alongside #tulpa.info) about starting Tay's creation/development from scratch. Starting again right from the Beginning. This was because of my knowledge of my lack of commitment to the tulpa creation process - I never had any communication of any form, and I also wondered if my lack of commitment and attention to Tay (I still paid attention to him, but I felt that it just wasn't enough: Heck, I _know_ that it wasn't enough) had affected him in any way. I was worried for him. I was reassured by people on that channel (many of whom had tulpae themselves) that Tay would be perfectly fine - I was told that starting again wouldn't affect Tay negatively in any way, but it wasn't necessary. They had seen me show a lot of affection for my tulpa before, and they assured me, without a trace of doubt, that he loved me too. I actually started to tear up at this point, even though I didn't feel sad (I'm also asking if this may have been an emotional response from my tulpa - I was also told that this could very well have been) and I promised myself that I would work consistently and for as long as possible on my tulpa every day - I passively narrate for as long as I can concentrate each day, except when there is too much noise or too much of my conentration is on another task. Bearing in mind I go to school and I am 16 (high school/A-levels, depending on your nationality - I am English, so A-Levels for me), this is very difficult, but I put as much as I can into it. It can be a strain sometimes, but I try for as long as I can. I simply would like to ask if starting again on Tay would be at all necessary, and if it would distress Tay at all if I did. Thirdly, and finally, I would like to ask about my method of tulpaforcing. My primary method was one that I developed myself as an amalgamation of a few other guides (mostly Kiadahj and JD-Bar), and it consisted of constant visualisation, visual imposition, parroting and puppeting - basically JD-Bar's guide mixes in with visual imposition and auditory hallucination. Is this too much? Would it have affected any aspect of me or my tulpa at all negatively (due to the mental strain that it put on me whenever I attempted it)? Thank you for your responses in advance. -Twiliclipse "There is no abiding success without commitment." - Tony Robbins "Commitment is an act, not a word." - Jean-Paul Satre "Unless commitment is made, there are only promises and hopes... but no plans." - Peter Drucker
Shui September 13, 2013 September 13, 2013 The first one should be pretty easy: What is the difference between your tulpa speaking to you and auditory hallucination? Well, many of the people here haven't reached audio imposition yet, so for us it's more like talking to ourselves in our heads. But an imposed tulpa speaking to you actually is auditory hallucination. It's different from other auditory hallucinations in the form it takes, and the times it comes up. The most common auditory hallucinations are those of music that's frequently heard (the infamous ipod hallucinations, which happened mostly with hymns before the era of MP3), and voices right before you fall asleep, often calling your name. Neither of these will talk back to you or respond to you, while the voice of a tulpa will. I simply would like to ask if starting again on Tay would be at all necessary, and if it would distress Tay at all if I did. I don't believe it's necessary, but I don't think it would hurt him either. Thirdly, and finally, I would like to ask about my method of tulpaforcing. My primary method was one that I developed myself as an amalgamation of a few other guides (mostly Kiadahj and JD-Bar), and it consisted of constant visualisation, visual imposition, parroting and puppeting - basically JD-Bar's guide mixes in with visual imposition and auditory hallucination. Is this too much? Would it have affected any aspect of me or my tulpa at all negatively (due to the mental strain that it put on me whenever I attempted it)? In my humble opinion, that should be fine. I was going to suggest something similar myself. My advice is don't be so quick to say Tay isn't responding. Early on, a tulpa communicates through ideas, images, and emotions, which your brain has to translate. I think a lot of people confuse their translating the tulpa's words as them parroting the tulpa's words. Initially the things he says and does will feel like you, and you'll think you're doing them, even when you're not. Have faith in him and he will eventually come to communicate in a way that you see as independent from yourself. It just takes time. "'Real isn't how you are made,' said the Skin Horse. 'It's a thing that happens to you.'"
Linkzelda September 13, 2013 September 13, 2013 1st Question: I guess this question can't be answered by only a few people. Anyway, for me personally for mind-voice there's a type of echo effect for a bit, or weird warping sounds increasing that would be subtle if I shifted my awareness to external stimuli. Usually if I ask a simple question to Ada or Eva, there's this light-headed sensation I get as they're responding back. In my initial attempts when I joined this forum, I had this similar sensation, but like most people were in their first attempts, I would feel like I was stifling her responses because of my own fears and insecurities with parroting back then. Now, because I literally jack-hammered the doubt out of my head by pushing myself a bit more, the light-headed feeling is more apparent when listening to them. Sure, it may be a psychological predisposition that's built so that I may be able to discern who will be talking, but it does help a lot. Most of the time it feels that whenever I'm listening, it's as if I'm in some kind of void for a few seconds while they're stating their responses. As for auditory imposition, I'm not as proficient in being receptive to their voices like that compared to their mind-voices, but whenever their voices come about (usually randomly), as I'm shocked on what I just heard, suddenly I can't hear the rest of their voices. Probably because of the excitement that broke my attachment towards that awareness of their voices being heard external through auditory imposition. 2nd Question: When you talk to the right people, the people on the IRC can definitely help a lot with giving you assurance. Just know that what they're saying is true, because when you get your mind in the right direction, those same things those people produce for you (compassion, assurance, etc.) is something you can do for yourself. And like your quotes of commitment in your signature, I can't emphasize more on that kind of mindset is what personally overrides only doing passive acknowledgement of them. The reason being is getting into that level of commitment to do your best in your active forcing sessions (narration, visualizing, etc.), you have the assurance that reality will be at your beck and call, and the time you devoted to have peace and quiet to just focus on you and the tulpa(s) you want to interact with is concentrated as much as possible. Getting into that type of focus where all that exists in that time-frame you set up to force is you, your tulpa, and the totality of your mind is what will eventually lead to the breakthrough of having a vocal tulpa. Knowing that you can get back to living your life as soon as you're finish, which motivates you to just see things through the end for the sessions. It's a hard thing to practice, especially when we have the urgency of doing other things that we feel that may be important (work, family, friends, etc.). Which is why you should always make some personal time for yourself to prevent distractions, you have to allow the mind and your tulpa to get in synch, which means you have to synch yourself into a calm, opened, and receptive mindset. And you don't have to see it as starting over again with Tay, there personally is no relapse into this, that's only if you decide there is. Just think of it as picking up from where you finished before. 3rd question: Any guide, Kiadahj, JD-Bar, etc., they will emphasize that being consistent in those aspects of tulpaforcing will lead to results. Because after so much training, you are bound to gain unconscious competence in these things so that it isn't as difficult compared to those initial stages. You have to allow yourself to step in first in order for the mind to make the connections needed to succeed into this. Passive forcing helps if you go through a constant stream of believing and having confidence (even if it feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy), but active forcing and consistency clearly has more qualitative results. But with that, do take breaks once in a while, most of the time I would think I can force for 5 hours and by the time I do at least 2-3 hours of active forcing, I need to rest and sleep and hopefully start back up again. It depends on some people, some may be able to force like crazy for hours and not get any backlash because they trained themselves to reach the critical points and build higher levels of mental and physiological endurance. [align=center]7 Hours of Active Forcing 8 Hours & 29 Minutes of Active Forcing 10 Hours of Active Forcing[/align]
Platinum September 13, 2013 September 13, 2013 HI Lunaclipse! Nothing that I can really add here that I haven't already or hasn't already been said. feel free to say something to me even if it is not nice I don't mind.
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