Tips for those who are getting "parrotnoid".

[OldDrunkBastard]

By parrotnoid, I mean thinking that you're parroting your tulpa when you're actually not, and that nerve-wracking feeling you get when your tulpa's reply feels like you created it a split second before hearing it, and you're scared to death and you's is like "Err mah gerd, Ah'm gonnuh create a serviter!". Well, I made this guide because I had the same problem, and it seems to be pretty prevalent here at Tulpa.info, so I guess I'll take a crack at it, and address some of the top concerns I've seen.

 

- "It feels like I always know what he/she is going to say": That's because you know your tulpa. It's like when you know a friend and their personality really well, and you have a general idea as to what they'll say in reply to something you say. This is even more so with a tulpa, because you know their exact personalities. Expectation is not parroting.

 

- "I'm scared that I'm parroting.": K, 9/10 times, if you're worried that you're parroting, you're probably not. Parroting is a 100% deliberate process, that can only be done by fully conscious action. As far as I know, there's no such thing as "sub-conscious parroting".

 

- "I feel as if I'm creating their reply a split second before I hear it.": Well, that's not you creating it. In the early days of tulpaforcing, this is normal. It's simply your mind and your tulpa computing, taking what they know of the tulpa's personality, and plugging that in to figure out how they'll reply. This will be conquered in time, fret not.

 

- "HELPZ, I'z worried! Am I going to create a servitor?!?!?": No. It's up for debate about the nature of servitors and whether or not they can become full-blown tulpae, but if you're not trying to make a servitor, then you're not. If you're that worried about it, then you've devoted way to much love and affection for your tulpa to ever become a servitor.

 

"It seems as if the response was theirs, but I hear MY mind voice. Is this parroting?": Nope. All this means is that their vocality isn't finished. If you haven't worked on their vocality much, this is perfectly normal ^_^ You can try speech exercises for this, or just wait for it to develope by itself. Either way, try not to get discouraged by this, as it, like many other obstacles in the path of tulpa creation, will be conquered in time.

 

Hope this helps anyone with this problem. Questions, comments, concerns, feel free to leave them.

 

[waffles]

6 approvals and 2 disapprovals. This thread needs more votes, so it'll stay up here until it gets them.

 

EDIT for 6/1/14: As of now we have 9 GATs so 6 is now enough for an approval for Tips.

[Yori]

Reading things to help with sentience... I don't that one needs to deliberately parrot the words, but I don't think parroting itself is subconscious either. - all I'd have to do is turn my thoughts to imagining a response, from the beginning, and there it was, I don't plan the actual wording plenty of times. Just like visualization sessions... but I do think that if someone isn't focused on them saying something, (not on the words themselves, just them saying something.. and I don't mean waiting for a response) that they probably aren't parroting. When I parrot it's obvious it's my thoughts, I feel them on the tip of my tongue in a literal way (Idk what this is. Maybe because, when it comes to speech, we do it with our tongues... so when I'm having thoughts of words, I feel it there, in my mouth? o.O).

 

I don't expect mistaking my tulpa's words for possibly being my own will be an issue for me.

[Guest Anonymous]

It seems like all the OP says is "You are not parroting, there is no way you are unless you're writing it down on paper and having it broadcast on the 6 o'clock news, just to make sure that it's deliberate."

 

My host parrots me several times a day, it's just rarely something that I'm bothered to fix for him (which would further increase his parrotnoia anyway). Accepting that you do parrot, but that it is not that harmful for your tulpa in small quantities sounds much healthier to me than assuming that you do not parrot at all. Simply by expecting a certain reply you can already start parroting. As you've said, you know your tulpa, so generally those types of parrots aren't bad or annoying.

 

I also don't like how you try to explain everything by using pseudoscience. You give literally no backing for things such as "It's simply your mind and your tulpa computing", which I don't really understand.

 

 

tl;dr - As a tulpa, who knows what it is like to be parroted, I disagree with the OP of this thread, and doubt that it could help anyone that wasn't already planning on simply accepting everything as their tulpa. Being parrotnoid should be a stage for every host. If you're not afraid of parroting, you don't care enough about your tulpa's sentience.

[Linkzelda]

If you're not afraid of parroting, you don't care enough about your tulpa's sentience.

 

I wasn't afraid at all, and I love their existence very much.

[theimaginationborders]

ER MAH GERD THIS IS THE MOST HELPFUL THING I'VE EVER SEEN!

the split second thing happened to me this morning, and I got so depressed thinking about it, I nearly gave up on my lovely eryx. thank you soo much!

[Sharlina Silverpaw]

Thank yous! This made me realize Sharlina really is sentient (which, in hindsight, makes perfect sense, considering my copious experience with characterization and how fictional characters will react to things :) ).

[Cjboy1111]

Thanks man, explained a bit :)

[etherealcabbage]

My only concern is Ran's current way of talking is by "implanting" a thought or feeling that is similar to what he wants to say, then I pretty much interpret that into words. My fear is that I interpret something that he didn't actually "say", and I wind up just putting words into his mouth. I don't really like this method but it seems to be the most helpful/productive method we have.

[NekoiNemo]

I understand your concerns since i had to struggle with the same problem for a while.

I can recommend listening closely to his reaction to what you have implanted and if you feel a slightest doubt that it's what he wanted to say - suggest him another option and see what he has to say about it. Of course, obvious downside is that it can sometimes turn into quite tedious throwing options at him like "Yes? No? No, not "no"? Then maybe "yes"? U-ugh, so was that a "no" then? ...".

It's nice to see you're so concerned about not putting words into his mouth :)

[Yori]

I looked at this tip, but it stopped being reassuring for future me when OP suggested that parroting has to be deliberate. When people are parrotnoid, the main worry is that it wasn't their tulpa. You don't have to deliberately try to puppet or parrot to visualize your tulpa saying or doing something they didn't do. Remember "glitches", or unavoidable violent imagery? You didn't want that, but neither did your tulpa. Sometimes when I'm forcing a tulpa, I wait for them to say something I didn't premeditate it, but I know I'm not some insta-tulpa maker either.

 

I just wanted to point out that you can't assume something was your tulpa just because you didn't do it deliberately. That could lead to issues like, "Why did my tulpa just stab me?" Or "why is my tulpa trying to look like a golem and scare me?" :P This isn't the answer to the paranoia. You don't want to be paranoid, but you want to Listen to your actual tulpa, and your tulpa wants to be heard.